Acceleration of Head When Heading a Soccer Ball

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Homework Statement


When a soccer ball is kicked toward a player and the player deflects the ball by “heading” it, the acceleration of the head during the collision can be significant. Figure 2-31 gives the measured acceleration a(t) of a soccer player's head for a bare head and a helmeted head, starting from rest. At time t = 7.0 ms, what is the difference in the speed acquired by the bare head and the speed acquired by the helmeted head?
*i attached the problem and graph

Homework Equations


Would you just find the area and subtract?

The Attempt at a Solution


I attempted to find the area of the collision with the bare head (.75m/s) and the area with the helmeted head (.26m/s) then subtracted to get .49m/s, but the answer at the back of the book says .56m/s. i haven't had calculus yet, so I'm still trying to understand integrals, any advice would be great!
 

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Hello ang359,

Welcome to physics forums!
ang359 said:
I attempted to find the area of the collision with the bare head (.75m/s)
Try the above again. I think something went wrong.
and the area with the helmeted head (.26m/s)
That part sounds good to me.
i haven't had calculus yet, so I'm still trying to understand integrals, any advice would be great!
You're doing fine. You're on the right track. A (definite) integral is "the area under the curve." And that's what you're doing. :smile:

[Edit: misinterpreted the graph myself (by a factor of 10) in my original post. Made corrections above.]
 
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ang359 said:

Homework Statement


When a soccer ball is kicked toward a player and the player deflects the ball by “heading” it, the acceleration of the head during the collision can be significant. Figure 2-31 gives the measured acceleration a(t) of a soccer player's head for a bare head and a helmeted head, starting from rest. At time t = 7.0 ms, what is the difference in the speed acquired by the bare head and the speed acquired by the helmeted head?
*i attached the problem and graph

Homework Equations


Would you just find the area and subtract?

The Attempt at a Solution


I attempted to find the area of the collision with the bare head (.75m/s) and the area with the helmeted head (.26m/s) then subtracted to get .49m/s, but the answer at the back of the book says .56m/s. i haven't had calculus yet, so I'm still trying to understand integrals, any advice would be great!

The only error I see is you have mis-calculated the "area ... with the bare head"

Not sure how you did it, but with shapes defined by a series of straight line segments like these I just "count the squares" - or in this case rectangles - then convert

from the scales [ignoring units] you can find that each rectangle represents 20
The area under the "helmeted head" totals 13 squares so 260 units. Now considering the scales involved - m/s^2 and milliseconds that easily yields your 0.26 m/s.
 
collinsmark said:
Hello ang359,

Welcome to physics forums!

Try the above again. I think something went wrong.

That part sounds good to me.

You're doing fine. You're on the right track. A (definite) integral is "the area under the curve." And that's what you're doing. :smile:

[Edit: misinterpreted the graph myself (by a factor of 10) in my original post. Made corrections above.]
Okay thanks! I'm not quite sure what i did wrong with the area of the bare head but i'll try it again. it's good to know that I'm somewhat on the right track
 
PeterO said:
The only error I see is you have mis-calculated the "area ... with the bare head"

Not sure how you did it, but with shapes defined by a series of straight line segments like these I just "count the squares" - or in this case rectangles - then convert

from the scales [ignoring units] you can find that each rectangle represents 20
The area under the "helmeted head" totals 13 squares so 260 units. Now considering the scales involved - m/s^2 and milliseconds that easily yields your 0.26 m/s.
yeah that makes sense, i'll try the calculations again to see if i made a silly mistake. thanks so much!