Accuracy of the exploding asteroids in The Empire Strikes Back movie

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the scientific accuracy of the depiction of an asteroid explosion in the movie The Empire Strikes Back. Participants explore the physical implications of the explosion, including the asteroid's composition and the behavior of vaporized material in space.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the asteroid, believed to be about 40 meters in diameter and made of nickel-iron, would actually vaporize and if the gas dispersion could occur in less than a third of a second.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the context is fictional and suggests that concerns about scientific accuracy in this scenario may be misplaced.
  • A later reply highlights that explosions in space differ significantly from those in an atmosphere, noting the absence of a fireball and the behavior of particles in a vacuum.
  • Some participants engage in humorous exchanges about the fictional elements of the movie, including references to other science fiction franchises.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of scientific accuracy in a fictional context, with some focusing on the physics of the explosion while others argue that the fictional nature of the film diminishes the importance of such accuracy. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the scientific validity of the explosion depiction.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not reach a consensus on the scientific aspects of the explosion, and there are varying assumptions about the nature of explosions in space versus those in an atmosphere.

Is this explosion accurate?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • No

    Votes: 4 80.0%

  • Total voters
    5
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Here is a scene of a star destroyer firing on an asteroid. The entire explosion takes about 10 frames of video -- less than a third of a second. It's widely believed that the asteroid in question is about 40 meters in diameter and made of nickel-iron. It's also widely believed that this asteroid was vaporized. I'm curious about the scientific accuracy of the explosion. Do you think the asteroid was really vaporized? If so, would the vapor disperse in less than a third of a second like this? I've heard the opinion of one person who claims to be a physics expert and says the gas dispersion is accurate but I have serious doubts about that myself.
 
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no one has any comment? :-o
 
First, it may take more than 76 minutes for someone to answer your question, especially as it is in the middle of the night in North America.

Second, it's fiction. There are no star destroyers, there is no Yoda, there is no Darth Vader and there is no force. Worrying about whether 0.33s of the movie is scientifically accurate misses the whole point.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
There are no star destroyers, there is no Yoda, there is no Darth Vader and there is no force.

Nooooooooooo! That's nonsense! I mean, it cannot be true, can it?

What's next, you going to tell me Santa Claus does not exist either?

* force chokes Vanadium *
 
you have to find out what that green stuff is first :D
 
In Star Trek, it would be a strongly ionized bundle of theta radiation emitted from the plasma chambers of the warp drive.

In Star Wars, it sort of looks like an inversely polarized antimatter beam.

(Do you think I could write an SF series?)
 
CompuChip said:
What's next, you going to tell me Santa Claus does not exist either?

Of course Santa Claus exists. I find your lack of faith...disturbing.
 
All seriousness aside, explosions in space are quite unlike explosions in an atmosphere. There's no fireball, and it doesn't mushroom the way that does.

If you've ever seen a pic of the lunar excursion module blasting off from the Moon's surface for its trip home you can see that it just looks like a bucnh of scintillating particles flying off in straight lines. There's no air back pressue to stop it.
 

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