Adjoint and inverse of product of operators

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The discussion centers on the properties of adjoints and inverses of products of linear operators, particularly in the context of finite versus infinite dimensional spaces. Participants explore whether established relations for finite-dimensional operators extend to infinite-dimensional settings, with a focus on bounded linear operators in Banach spaces.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the relations for adjoints and inverses of products of operators hold true for bounded linear operators between Banach spaces.
  • One participant questions the applicability of these relations to infinite-dimensional operators and seeks clarification on definitions of adjoints in Banach spaces.
  • Another participant provides a definition of the adjoint for bounded linear operators on Banach spaces, noting that it differs from the Hilbert space case.
  • Participants discuss the implications of domains for unbounded linear operators, indicating that the calculations may only hold under certain conditions.
  • There is mention of the formula for the adjoint operator being consistent across finite and infinite dimensions, contingent on the definitions being appropriately applied.
  • Some participants highlight that the proof for the adjoint relation in Banach spaces mirrors that of Hilbert spaces without requiring modifications.

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Participants generally agree that the relations for adjoints and inverses hold for bounded linear operators in Banach spaces, but there is uncertainty regarding the extension to unbounded operators and the specifics of definitions in different contexts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of domains for unbounded operators.

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Limitations include the potential differences in definitions of adjoints across various spaces and the unresolved nature of how domains affect the properties of unbounded operators.

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I know for two linear operators $$H_1, H_2$$ between finite dimensional spaces (matrices) we have the relations (assuming their adjoints/inverses exist):
$$(H_1 H_2)^* = H_2^* H_1^*$$ and $$(H_1 H_2)^{-1} = H_2^{-1} H_1^{-1}$$
but does this extend to operators in infinite dimensions? Thanks.
 
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ellilu11 said:
but does this extend to operators in infinite dimensions? Thanks.

Well, given a dimension N, the relations are true. Since we do not impose any restriction on N...
 
Yes, this is true for bounded linear operators between Banach spaces.
 
Okay thanks. Do you have a reference where I can learn about the Banach space case?
 
A course in functional analysis should help you. Do you have that in your school's schedule?
 
Hawkeye18 said:
Yes, this is true for bounded linear operators between Banach spaces.
Is there a definition of the adjoint of a bounded linear operator on a Banach space? The definition I'm familiar with is for Hilbert spaces.

ellilu11 said:
I know for two linear operators $$H_1, H_2$$ between finite dimensional spaces (matrices) we have the relations (assuming their adjoints/inverses exist):
$$(H_1 H_2)^* = H_2^* H_1^*$$ and $$(H_1 H_2)^{-1} = H_2^{-1} H_1^{-1}$$
but does this extend to operators in infinite dimensions? Thanks.
In the finite-dimensional case, the proofs go like this:
\begin{align}
&\langle (AB)^*x,y\rangle =\langle x,ABy\rangle =\langle A^*x,By\rangle =\langle B^*A^*x,y\rangle\\
&B^{-1}A^{-1}A B= B^{-1} I B =B^{-1} B=I.
\end{align} The proofs for bounded linear operators on an infinite-dimensional Hilbert space are the same. For unbounded linear operators, the domains of the operators are an issue. The domains are proper linear subspaces of the Hilbert space, so the first calculation can at best make sense for all ##x,y## in some proper linear subspace (I don't have time to think about the details right now), and the second calculation should be changed to
$$B^{-1}A^{-1}A Bx= B^{-1}I|_{\operatorname{dom} A}Bx =B^{-1}Bx=x,$$ for all x such that x is in the domain of B and Bx is in the domain of A.
 
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Fredrik said:
Is there a definition of the adjoint of a bounded linear operator on a Banach space? The definition I'm familiar with is for Hilbert spaces.

Yes, although not everybody calls it the adjoint. If you have a operator ##T:B_1\rightarrow B_2##, then you can define ##T^*:B_2^*\rightarrow B_1^*## by ##T^*(f) = f\circ T##. Only in Hilbert spaces does this give rise to an operator ##B_2\rightarrow B_1## by the Riesz isomorphisms.
 
notice from micromass' definition the formula (ToS)* = S*oT* is immediate. i.e. since by definition,

we have T*(f) = foT, applying S* to both sides gives S*oT* (f) = foToS = (ToS)*(f).

so it has nothing to do with the dimension being finite. and i think you can finesse fredrick's subtle remarks in case the maps are not defined everywhere, by saying, "and hence this holds wherever both sides make sense".
 
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If you adapt the pretty standard in functional analysis notation ##\langle x, f\rangle## for ##f(x)##, where ##x## is in a Banach space ##X## and ##f## is in its dual (i.e. a bounded linear functional on ##X##) then the formula defining the adjoin (dual) operator is absolutely the same as for the Hilbert spaces. Only now, as micromass mentioned the dual operator acts between dual spaces. And the proof Frederik presented for ##(AB)^*=B^*A^*## for Hilbert spaces works in the case of Banach spaces without any changes.
 

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