Advice Needed: Should I Study in USA or Russia Fed?

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The discussion centers around the decision of whether to pursue an undergraduate program in the USA or in Russia, specifically in fields like aerospace engineering or theoretical physics/math. Participants also explore the implications of citizenship on job prospects, particularly in military-oriented organizations in the USA.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to study in the USA and inquires about job prospects in US firms, especially those related to defense.
  • Another participant notes that U.S. citizenship is typically required for jobs with defense contractors, sharing personal experience from job applications.
  • Some participants suggest that a US education could be valuable in the Russian job market, especially given the increase in military spending in Russia.
  • There are multiple suggestions regarding how to obtain US citizenship quickly, including marriage to a US citizen, though this is met with skepticism and concerns about legality.
  • Several participants discuss the challenges of obtaining US citizenship, emphasizing the difficulty and lengthy process involved.
  • A later reply advises focusing on education first before making plans regarding employment and cautions against discussing citizenship acquisition methods in the thread.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the value of studying in the USA versus Russia, with no clear consensus on the best path. The discussion about citizenship and its implications for employment remains contested, with differing opinions on the feasibility of obtaining citizenship quickly.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of immigration and citizenship processes, noting that many individuals face significant challenges in becoming US citizens. There are also concerns about the legality of certain suggestions made in the discussion.

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Hello everyone. i would like to know your personal opinions about weather i should study undergraduate program in USA or in my home country Russian Fed.
At the moment i am preparing for SATs and will try to get into a US school. I am going to do aerospace engineering or theoretical physics/math. The other important question is -how hard will it be for me to get a job in US firm?i f it is a military orientated organization?

Thanks in advance!
 
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You mostly likely need U.S. citizenship to work for defense contractors. I've applied to both small and large contractors. All of them required me to be a U.S. citizen during their phone screenings/interviews.
 
Citizenship is typically required for US jobs.

That being said, if you get an education at a US institution, my guess is that you'd be of great value in the Russian job market. The Russians are really beefing up military spending, and probably you'd be paid much more there (vs. cost of living) than you would here with a 4 year degree.

If you want to stay in the US, you should pursue citizenship, though. This will make it easier to get a job in general.
 
Ohh..any ideas how to get US citizenship fast?)))))))
fizziks, u are not US citizen? where are u from then?
 
Denurry said:
Ohh..any ideas how to get US citizenship fast?)))))))
fizziks, u are not US citizen? where are u from then?

You can get married to a U.S. citizen. Are you a female?
 
Denurry said:
Ohh..any ideas how to get US citizenship fast?)))))))
fizziks, u are not US citizen? where are u from then?

I am a citizen but all defense contractors I've applied ask anyways. Defense employers ask every potential hires if they are a citizen or not. It is required to getting a clearance too.

98whbf said:
You can get married to a U.S. citizen. Are you a female?

Lol, this is sad but very true. I can safely say that a number of foreigners become citizens by marriage to a U.S. citizen. And from there they bring in their families.

I've known people who just married for the sake of bringing everyone over to the U.S.
 
nahh, i am a male. Marrage...hmm... i a bit too young for it))
is there any legal and fast way?
 
Denurry said:
nahh, i am a male. Marrage...hmm... i a bit too young for it))
is there any legal and fast way?

If there was, then I doubt so many people would be willing to marry people that they do not know just to get citizenship.
 
Denurry said:
nahh, i am a male. Marrage...hmm... i a bit too young for it))
is there any legal and fast way?

Not really. Coming into the U.S. is hard enough. Becoming a citizen is even harder. My parents have some friends in China and they have been trying over 10 years to bring them here and make them citizens.
 
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Denurry said:
Hello everyone. i would like to know your personal opinions about weather i should study undergraduate program in USA or in my home country Russian Fed.
At the moment i am preparing for SATs and will try to get into a US school. I am going to do aerospace engineering or theoretical physics/math. The other important question is -how hard will it be for me to get a job in US firm?i f it is a military orientated organization?

Thanks in advance!

I would strongly suggest that you worry about getting your education first before making such ambitious plans regarding your employment. A lot of things can and DO happen along the way that can easily render such plans to be useless.

As for the remaining discussion in this thread, please stick to on-topic discussion appropriate for the "Academic Guidance" forum. Discussion on how to get US Citizenship, etc. is not one of them. Furthermore, and I know this is just idle discussion, suggestion about getting married just to get a US Citizenship may be unlawful. So that line of discussion should cease immediately.

Zz.
 

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