Aluminium and Barium Nitrate reaction

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The discussion revolves around the chemical reaction between aluminum and barium nitrate, focusing on the stability of aluminum powder in various pH environments and the implications of pH on the reaction dynamics. Participants explore concepts related to reactivity, protonation, and the behavior of aluminum hydroxide in different solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that adding more OH- would shift the reaction to the left and questions why pH 7 is the answer.
  • Another participant notes that aluminum powder is relatively stable due to the formation of an oxide layer, which prevents vigorous reactions with air oxygen.
  • Some participants discuss how aluminum's lowered reactivity is affected by neutral, acidic, and caustic solutions.
  • There is a suggestion that the explanation should involve the protonation of aluminum hydroxide and the volatility effects on ammonia.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the clarity of the explanation and emphasizes the need for explicitness in discussing the reactions involved.
  • Another participant mentions the deprotonation of aluminum hydroxide as pH changes from 7 to 14 and the behavior of ammonium at these pH levels.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the explanations for the stability of aluminum and the effects of pH on the reaction, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made regarding the behavior of aluminum in various pH environments, and the discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the underlying mechanisms at play.

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I chose B, because I thought adding more OH- would cause the reaction to shift to the left, and a low temperature would slow the rate of reaction, but the answer is A, why pH 7?
 
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Think what keeps aluminum powder relatively stable. Despite Al being highly reactive even in powdered form it doesn't react vigorously with the air oxygen. Why?

Next step is to think how this lowered reactivity survives in neutral, acidic and caustic solutions.
 
Borek said:
Think what keeps aluminum powder relatively stable. Despite Al being highly reactive even in powdered form it doesn't react vigorously with the air oxygen. Why?

Next step is to think how this lowered reactivity survives in neutral, acidic and caustic solutions.
Aluminium forms a layer of oxide which makes it unreactive. It is an amphoteric oxide so it reacts with acids and bases, but it doesn't react with water, so aluminium will stay unchanged. Thanks I think I've understood
 
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I am not sure what this explanation really is if you were to make it more explicit. It is not an easy question.
However I would be inclined to an explanation involving the protonation of the aluminium hydroxide and protonation and volatility effects on ammonia.
 
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epenguin said:
I am not sure what this explanation really is if you were to make it more explicit. It is not an easy question.
However I would be inclined to an explanation involving the protonation of the aluminium oxide and protonation and volatility effects on ammonia.
Oh I see..thanks
 
I should have said aluminium hydroxide. I am not sure you can be expected to know - I suspected, but had to look up, that this gets deprotonated going from pH 7 to 14. You can be expected to know or to be learning at this time that ammonium is essentially protonated at pH 7 (exists as ammonium ion) and not protonated (exists as NH3) at pH 14, and to relate this to any laboratory frequentation from which you may know that ammonia smells like hell and ammonium salts not, or not very.

I think it is all very well for them to tell you it's at pH 7 or 14. You may feel slightly left in the air. If it is at one pH or another something is making it so. You may wonder.
 
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