What Is the Amplitude 3cm from an Antinode in SHM?

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The problem involves a standing wave on a string, where the original poster seeks to determine the amplitude at a specific point (3.0 cm from an antinode) in the context of simple harmonic motion. The setup includes details about the distance between antinodes, the amplitude, and the period of oscillation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the equation of a standing wave and the relevance of the second derivative in the context of finding amplitude. There are questions about the necessity of the second derivative and its relationship to the wave equation.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on using the standing wave equation to find the amplitude at a specific position. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the wave parameters and the amplitude at the given point, with no explicit consensus reached on the approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of the wave equation and the specific parameters given in the problem, including the position of the antinode and the calculation of wave properties. There is a focus on understanding the mathematical relationships involved without a complete resolution of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Adjacent antinodes of a standing wave on a string are a distance 15.0cm apart. A particle at an antinode oscillates in simple harmonic motion with amplitude 0.850cm and period 0.0750s. The string lies along the +x - axis and is fixed at x=0.
At time t=0, all points on the string are at their minimum displacement.
Find the amplitude at a point a distance 3.0cm to the right of an antinode.


Homework Equations


d^y(x,t) /dx^2 = 1/v^2 . d^2y(x,t)/(dt^2)


The Attempt at a Solution


wavlength is 2 x 15 cm = .30m
f is 1/T = 13.333 Hz
so v = 4 m/s, v^2 = 16 and 1/v^2 is 0.0625
However, I' having trouble getting the second derivative of the wave equation using the point 3.0 cm to the right of the antinode.
 
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What is the equation of a standing wave?

why are you trying to get the second derivative?
 
y(x,t)=(Asinkx)sinwt
I thought the second derivative wrt x was equal to the second derivative wrt t by the inverse of v squared. Or maybe not.
 
Ginerva123 said:
y(x,t)=(Asinkx)sinwt

Yes, that's the right equation.

I still don't understand... why do you need the second derivative with respect to x, or with respect to time? you need the amplitude at a certain x value right?

you've got the equation of the standing wave.

y(x,t)=(Asinkx)sinwt

The amplitude at any x value is simply Asinkx... because the maximum value that sinwt takes over time is 1... ie amplitude at x is Asinkx(1) = Asinkx.

you have A. you can get k ... You need the amplitude at a point 0.03m to the right of an anti-node... so just choose any anti-node... you've got the wavelength = 0.30m. where is the first anti-node?

what do you get for Asinkx, where x = 0.03 + position of anti-node ?
 
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