B An arrow vane claim (fletchings as airfoils)

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The discussion centers on the claim that arrow vanes, designed as airfoils, can produce lift while also causing the arrow to spin rapidly. The main contention is how an arrow can efficiently utilize lift from the vanes while spinning, with some arguing that the spin provides rotational stability akin to a gyroscope. It is suggested that the diagonal mounting of the vanes allows for more efficient conversion of forward velocity into spin, resulting in less drag and improved flight distance. The conversation also touches on the validity of theories regarding circular lift and gyroscopic precession in relation to arrow flight. Ultimately, the consensus is that both lift production by airfoil vanes and the potential for gyroscopic precession in arrows are plausible.
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There is a manufacture in archery industry that claims the vane is an air foil design
He also claims the vane design creates lift which I accept

My problem is he also says the vane will cause the arrow to spin 200 time within 60ft of flight

How can something spinning efficiently use lift produced by the vane

He claims the arrow develops a gyro effect
 
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southshorerat said:
How can something spinning efficiently use lift produced by the vane
Without claiming any authority on the subject at all, I don't see why this is a problem - at least in principle.
It's not like an airplane's wings producing lift symmetrically and normal to the ground on both sides of its fuselage.

If the vanes of an arrow were to produce "lift", it would more accurately be called spin - they would all work in the same direction (clockwise or counterclockwise) around the axis, which would impart the rotational stability - like a gyro.

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A wind turbine is driven to spin because all the blades develop lift, and are twisted in the same sense.
An arrow spins because the vanes are mounted slightly diagonally. It is more efficient to develop the rotational lift with an airfoil than with a flat plate. By more efficiently converting the forward velocity into spin, the arrow has less drag and so will travel slightly further and faster.
 
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Disregard my last post it did not load correctly
 
Please refer to the portion of this PDF concerning arrowflight 101

Do the theories concerning circular lift and gyroscopic precession hold true
 
southshorerat said:
Please refer to the portion of this PDF concerning arrowflight 101

Do the theories concerning circular lift and gyroscopic precession hold true
Sorry, you want us to read a page from a PDF product ad that you posted, and tell you whether or not all or part of it is true?
 
No I provided information so you could understand my original questions and apply physics to two questions

1 Can a vane that has an airfoil design produce lift

2 Can an arrow spin fast enough to produce gyroscopic precession
 
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Yes and yes.
 

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