Applying Gauss' Law to other situations

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The discussion revolves around the application of Gauss' Law to a specific differential equation related to particle diffusion. Participants explore the mathematical manipulation of the equation, particularly in the context of integrating over a volume and applying the divergence theorem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a differential equation involving a scalar function and questions how to apply Gauss' Law, specifically regarding the treatment of a term representing particle generation.
  • Another participant suggests that integrating the partial differential equation (PDE) over a volume allows for replacing the Laplacian term with a surface integral, while other terms remain as volume integrals.
  • The first participant expresses uncertainty about the application of the divergence theorem in this context.
  • There is a request for clarification on using LaTex for mathematical expressions, indicating a need for better formatting in the discussion.

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Participants have not reached a consensus on the application of Gauss' Law to the specific differential equation, and there remains uncertainty about the treatment of the terms involved.

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Limitations include the potential misunderstanding of the divergence theorem's applicability and the need for clarity in mathematical notation, which may affect the discussion's progress.

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Hey everyone,

I'm not sure if this belongs in the math or physics section of this forum, but I figure since my question is more related to the mathematical manipulation of what I am dealing with, I figured I would ask it here and then if it has to be moved, it can be.

My question has to do with applying gauss' law to a differential equation I am dealing with. The differential equation is the partial derivative of some function of x,y,z,t with respect to t is equal to a constant times dell^2 of that function plus another constant times the same function. The case I am considering is when the time derivative is equal to zero. So I have:

D*dell^2(n) + C*n = 0

So I am thinking I am basically dealing with a divergence of the vector dell(n) (n is a scalar function). However, I'm not sure how to apply that logic to the C*n part. Can I just subtract it to the other side and take the triple volume integral? Or does the divergence theorem not apply? I think it does because I am basically dealing with a diffusion of particles out from a spherical surface. The only difference is there are particles being generated inside of the sphere as well. That's the C*n term.
 
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Can you type in the equation using LaTex or the special symbols?
 
res3210 said:
Hey everyone,

I'm not sure if this belongs in the math or physics section of this forum, but I figure since my question is more related to the mathematical manipulation of what I am dealing with, I figured I would ask it here and then if it has to be moved, it can be.

My question has to do with applying gauss' law to a differential equation I am dealing with. The differential equation is the partial derivative of some function of x,y,z,t with respect to t is equal to a constant times dell^2 of that function plus another constant times the same function. The case I am considering is when the time derivative is equal to zero. So I have:

D*dell^2(n) + C*n = 0

So I am thinking I am basically dealing with a divergence of the vector dell(n) (n is a scalar function). However, I'm not sure how to apply that logic to the C*n part. Can I just subtract it to the other side and take the triple volume integral? Or does the divergence theorem not apply? I think it does because I am basically dealing with a diffusion of particles out from a spherical surface. The only difference is there are particles being generated inside of the sphere as well. That's the C*n term.

If you integrate your PDE over a volume, then you can indeed replace the \nabla^2 n term by an integral of \nabla n over the boundary surface, but the integrals of the other terms will remain as volume integrals.

Usually such conservation PDEs are obtained by looking at \frac{d}{dt} \int_V n\,dV and then using the divergence theorem to replace the surface term expressing the flux of n out of V with a volume integral.
 
UltrafastPED said:
Can you type in the equation using LaTex or the special symbols?

Sorry about that, I am typing from my smart phone, and I don't know how to use LaTex from this interface. Mainly because I'm not familiar with LaTex. If you know any good sources where I can learn it, I'd be willing to use it.
 

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