Are americans more ignorant than europeans?

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Anttech simply does not like Americans and cannot resist the oportunity to put them in a bad light whenever possible.
Ehh? Why do you say that?

You dont know me, or what I like or dont like. Your perception is what it is, but there is no backing for what you say, so kindly retract it and dont attempt to build a position around me which isnt *actually* my position! Why not ask me what I like rather than misunderstand and spread lies?

I dont like many things, but I would never say I dont like a nation its racist actually, and I am not a racist, its as bad as saying someone doesnt like Black people, or Mediterraneans, or purple people or whatever.

One thing I certainly dont like, (as many others dont) is someone attempting to put words in others mouths, or misrepresenting others, like *YOU* have just done to me!

Joke or not...
 
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Ehh? Why do you say that?

You dont know me, or what I like or dont like. Your perception is what it is, but there is no backing for what you say, so kindly retract it and dont attempt to build a position around me which isnt *actually* my position! Why not ask me what I like rather than misunderstand and spread lies?

I dont like many things, but I would never say I dont like a nation its racist actually, and I am not a racist, its as bad as saying someone doesnt like Black people, or Mediterraneans, or purple people or whatever.

One thing I certainly dont like, (as many others dont) is someone attempting to put words in others mouths, or misrepresenting others, like *YOU* have just done to me!

Joke or not...
I don't think there is anything wrong with you not liking Americans. I don't see how that would make you a racist as Americans are made up of every race under the sun. You simply dislike our government, our laws, our leaders and our ideals. It's obvious in just about every one of your posts. And it is quite alright with me. I suppose you are offended by the word "hate". How about we just call it "dislike"? Basically, says the same thing just doesn't make you look like a "hater". Lighten up.
 
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I don't think there is anything wrong with you not liking Americans. I don't see how that would make you a racist as Americans are made up of every race under the sun. You simply dislike our government, our laws, our leaders and our ideals. It's obvious in just about every one of your posts. And it is quite alright with me. I suppose you are offended by the word "hate". How about we just call it "dislike"? Basically, says the same thing just doesn't make you look like a "hater". Lighten up.
I am light :smile:

But you are missing the point, I do not, not like Americans. Its an absurd thing to say. And for you to say that is a misrepresentation of me, and what I actually do not like. Just because I have political views which contradict yours, or your countries does not equate with me hating Americans.

You do understand that right?
 
  • #29
drankin
I am light :smile:

But you are missing the point, I do not, not like Americans. Its an absurd thing to say. And for you to say that is a misrepresentation of me, and what I actually do not like. Just because I have political views which contradict yours, or your countries does not equate with me hating Americans.

You do understand that right?
Yes, you don't "hate", you passionately dislike. I understand.
 
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I really hope that's urban legend. I'm no Bush fan, but I learned that in 9th grade. Seriously, that's not even funny.
It's more than just urban legend, but the source is an anectdote from a single person. The fact that the single person was a US ambassador lends some credibility to the claim, but the fact that it's a second hand account that John Galbraith heard from three Iraqi Americans drops the credibility a little. (Bush didn't know there were two sects of Islam )

Prior to the invasion, Bush did use the term "Sunni" to describe a Pakistani group, which shows he'd at least heard the term. That's about the only reference Bush ever made to either Sunnis or Shiites and it doesn't provide much insight as to whether he understood that Sunnis were a branch of Muslims or not.

Even if he had no idea before becoming President, you would think the subject had come up in some kind of briefing, since the difference between Shiite Iran and Sunni Arab nations is a significant factor in Middle East affairs. So, I'm not sure the story is all that credible in a literal sense. I do find it very credible that he really didn't comprehend the differences, leading to a slight embellishment of the story. After all, would the average American comprehend the differences between Protestants and Catholics in the same way someone form Northern Ireland would?
 
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Man, I hope this isn't true. What an embarassment if it is.

article above said:
Galbraith reports that the three of them spent some time explaining to Bush that there are two different sects in Islam--to which the President allegedly responded, “I thought the Iraqis were Muslims!”
This is even worse than his alleged confusion of Switzerland and Sweeden.
 
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looooooooooooooll....ok i don't think that all americans are stupid, anyway if americans were smart they would really disown bush, this guy is dumb seriously dumb. As for americans in general they are not stupid, they are ignorant to their surrounding because of lack of interest, and again this isn't a general rule, but it is more common in the U.S.A. as for the europeans they watch the same news as the americans so they have the same point of views nearly, especially in regard of the middle east, so they know nothing of why ppl here hate their political views, they just think we hate their gvrnmts because we are terroris and stop there. but the europeans in general long for knowledge more than the americans, and that helps them greatly in world affairs. propably that's why most ppl around the world would hate the americans but not the europeans.
 
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I still suspect that we have lots of really ignorant people who skew the statistics. If you eliminate everybody with less than a 4-year college degree, I'd guess the statistics would look very different. I can't back that up of course... beyond looking at American colleges and universities, and comparing them to similar world institutions.
 
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actually learning facilities in the US are really great...i was talking about the general public with all its constitutents.i mean take an example how many ppl in the USA would now were Mongolia would be? or even Iraq? George Bush propably still doesn't know were Iraq is...i've seen it once on Jay lenno i think were he goes around on streets asking ppl to point countries like korea and stuff like that, Europeans would know more on this subject, Lebanese ppl know every country, because whatever happpens anywhere in the world it either affects our internal politics in some wierd way, or we are blamed for it :P
 
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StuMyers
Don't put too much stock in what you see on Leno. People who know the correct answers aren't funny enough for TV.
 
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In Europe you have to learn alot about many other countries' history in order to understand your own, so you are always more aware of other cultures.

But i would guess that a bigger percentage of people in the US have a high degree of specialization (good knowledge in a particular area) when compared to other countries.
 
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i know that...it was just an example
 
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This is even worse than his alleged confusion of Switzerland and Sweeden.
Or of Switzerland and Sweden...:devil:
 
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i wonder about the chances of him attacking iran instead of iraq.. :P
 
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I am left to wonder how that measures up against common knowledge of youth in other countries. I skimmed through the report and I didn't find a comparison. Shouldn't the study have included youth from other countries? And shouldn't it have included comparison to similar reports from decades ago? (Assuming such studies were done back then.)
From the 2002 geosurvey:

National Geographic in 2002 said:
Americans ages 18 to 24 came in next to last among nine countries in the National Geographic-Roper 2002 Global Geographic Literacy Survey, which quizzed more than 3,000 young adults in Canada, France, Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Sweden, and the United States. Top scorers were young adults in Sweden, Germany, and Italy.
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/geosurvey/highlights.html

For question by question comparisons, start here:
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/geosurvey/templates/answer_1_1_1.html
 
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Yes, you don't "hate", you passionately dislike. I understand.
drankin -- let it go. One of the things we enforce here on the PF is "no personal attacks or insults". Please keep your discussion non-personal. I understand that this whole thread is a bit on the edge, but I'm inclined to keep it open as long as we don't get posters bickering with each other.
 
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Thanks for that.

Those were shamefully easy questions. I didn't miss any, so now I wonder why so many missed... so many. But then, I have a brother who doesn't believe in a south magnetic pole (which I reason is what his needle is actually pointing at), and thinks K2 is higher than Everest. I guess it boils down to what matters most in one's world.
 
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StuMyers
Or of Switzerland and Sweden...:devil:
:rofl: Typo, honest!
 
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:rofl: Typo, honest!
Hmpf, you're just ignorant, American...:wink:
 

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