Are Egg Shells and Crab Shells Made Up of Cells?

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The discussion centers on whether egg shells and crab shells are composed of cells or if they are considered inert matter. Participants explore the biological characteristics of these structures, including growth and replacement, and compare them to other biological materials like hair and fingernails.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that egg shells and crab shells are made up of cells, citing their ability to grow, die, and be replaced, similar to hair and fingernails.
  • Others argue that while hair and fingernails have living cells at their roots, the majority of these structures are composed of dead material, and thus do not support the idea that egg shells and crab shells are cellular.
  • A participant mentions that egg shells calcify over time and are formed from calcium compounds secreted in the oviduct of birds, indicating they are not made of cells.
  • There is a discussion about the misconception that hair is alive, with some emphasizing that only the root is living tissue, while the rest is dead keratinized material.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of hair care products, questioning the claims made in advertisements regarding the benefits to hair, which is largely composed of dead cells.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether egg shells and crab shells are made of cells or inert matter. Multiple competing views remain, with some insisting on a cellular composition and others asserting they are not cellular structures.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions of living versus inert matter, and the discussion reflects differing interpretations of biological processes related to growth and cellular composition.

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The textbook says that every living thing is made up of cells.

What about the shell of a crab or egg shells? Are they inert matter or made up of cells?

If they are made out of inert matter than how does the organism control their function?
 
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They are made up of cells. The can grow, die and be replaced. Inert matter cannot do that. Same is true of your fingernails and hair, for example.
 
selfAdjoint said:
They are made up of cells. The can grow, die and be replaced. Inert matter cannot do that. Same is true of your fingernails and hair, for example.

Someone told me that hair was inert and part of skin cells hence they grow because of the cells in the skin commands them to. Wiki only refers hair cells to specialised parts of the body and not to hair on the head or hair on the outside of the body. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair_cell
 
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selfAdjoint said:
They are made up of cells. The can grow, die and be replaced. Inert matter cannot do that. Same is true of your fingernails and hair, for example.
Not true, only the cells in the rim of your fingernails are alive, after that they keratinize and grow outward: that is dead material. The same with hair, hair is not alive: only the root is.

The egg shell probably calcifies over time and is able to grow in the soft stages in between. Once it is calcified it is not alive.

The crab grows by molting, where a soft shell grows underneath the hard shell, which is eventually released.

The outer layer of your skin is not alive either, it is keratinized skin that is shed.
 
Monique said:
Not true, only the cells in the rim of your fingernails are alive, after that they keratinize and grow outward: that is dead material. The same with hair, hair is not alive: only the root is.

Which is what used to make me laugh about those shampoo adverts now I may not be an expert on biology but hair that is dead? Absorbing vitamins? isn't really going to help much now is it? and neither is the root absorbing them. I mean you might as well eat the shampoo. And even then it'll only make a difference if you have some sort of vitamin deficiency probably. It's just a load of chemicles that do all the stuff to your hair. Oh and don't even get me started on face creams:rolleyes:
 
Monique said:
The egg shell probably calcifies over time and is able to grow in the soft stages in between. Once it is calcified it is not alive.
The egg shell was never made of cells, unlike hair which is dead cells. The egg shell is calcium compounds secreted within the oviduct of birds to surround the cellular components within it.
 

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