Are Martian rock formations similar to those on Earth?

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The discussion centers on the comparison of Martian rock formations to those on Earth, specifically focusing on the classification and formation of sedimentary rocks on Mars. Participants explore the implications of sedimentary rock presence in relation to historical liquid water on Mars, as well as alternative formation processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether Martian sedimentary rock can be considered equivalent to Earth’s sedimentary rock and seeks information on the extent of such formations on Mars.
  • Another participant suggests that significant quantities of sedimentary rock imply a substantial amount of liquid on Mars, but seeks clarification on whether all sedimentary formations necessarily involve liquid in their formation.
  • Some participants argue that sedimentary deposits can form from processes other than water deposition, including wind-blown dust and other erosional processes, indicating a broader definition of sedimentary rock.
  • There is mention of the possibility that carbon dioxide could also play a role in the erosional and depositional features on Mars.
  • One participant references the existence of a significant atmosphere on Mars in the past, which may support the idea of historical liquid presence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of liquid for the formation of sedimentary rocks on Mars. While some suggest that water is not mandatory, others emphasize the implications of sedimentary rock presence in relation to historical liquid water. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitions and implications of sedimentary rock formation on Mars.

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Participants note that the classification of sedimentary rock may depend on definitions and the context of formation processes, which are not fully agreed upon. There are also references to external sources that may provide further information but are not universally accessible.

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I ran into a link from a NASA page over to an Astrobiology webzine. In the article it referenced "sedimentary rock" on Mars. I don't really care about all the other claims of this article, some rather fantastic claims frankly. Rather I am interested in the use of the phrase sedimentary rock.

Have we established that martian sedimentary rock, and by that inferred its formation, is equivalent to what we commonly call sedimentary, and if so how much of observed martian rock would be classed as sedimentary ?

I'm interested in finding where martian rock formations are discussed in any substantial way...

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Simon's second link provides only the abstract; the full article is behind a pay-wall, but you can access it http://www.vashonsd.org/mcmurray/science/justin/News/AAAS1927.pdf . It is worth reading.

There are many books that could address questions you may have on Martian sediments - what level of detail does your curiosity extend to?
 
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Thanks for the links. The existence of significant quantities of sedimentary rock suggests a substantial quantity of liquid on the martian surface at one time. So i wanted to be sure there weren't explinations of sedimentary in the martian context that didn't assume liquids involved in the formation. And naturally the percentage of surface rock we would call sedimentary would potentially infer the quantity of liquid historically.
 
bitznbitez said:
The existence of significant quantities of sedimentary rock suggests a substantial quantity of liquid on the martian surface at one time. So i wanted to be sure there weren't explinations of sedimentary in the martian context that didn't assume liquids involved in the formation.

You are looking at it too narrowly. Sedimentary deposits do not just infer water deposition ...
any material that is eroded and redeposited also falls into that category ... so ALL wind blown dust and dirt is included as well
and the Martian atmosphere is very good at that with its huge regular dust storms

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Water is not mandatory, just about any liquid will suffice.
 
Chronos said:
Water is not mandatory, just about any liquid will suffice.
Let's extend that to "just about any fluid will suffice" and that will include Davenn's aeolian deposition. Some of the erosional - and consequently depositional - features on Mars, including recent ones, have been attributed to carbon dioxide.

For me the interesting thing is that, regardless of the planet and hence the fluid and the solids involved, the physics leads to similar landforms and depositional structures. Think of the views of Titan provided by the Huygens lander.
 

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