Are the Two Statements About Ksp and Solubility Consistent?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between solubility and the solubility product constant (Ksp) for salts, specifically addressing statements about the solubility of PbS and CdS in dilute solutions. Participants explore whether higher Ksp values correlate with greater solubility and the implications of these statements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the consistency of two statements regarding Ksp and solubility, suggesting that one must be incorrect.
  • Another participant explains that a higher Ksp indicates that more solute will dissolve, supporting the idea that Ksp is related to solubility.
  • A different participant argues that the original statement about PbS and CdS should use "lower" Ksp instead of "higher," indicating confusion about the implications of Ksp on solubility.
  • Another participant agrees that a lower Ksp would correspond to lower solubility, reinforcing the previous point.
  • One participant cautions that Ksp can only be used to compare solubility when the ionization ratios of the salts are the same, providing an example with MgCO3 and BaF2 to illustrate potential pitfalls in such comparisons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express confusion and disagreement regarding the relationship between Ksp and solubility, with no consensus reached on the correctness of the initial statements. Multiple competing views remain about how to interpret Ksp in relation to solubility.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of considering ionization ratios when comparing solubility using Ksp, indicating that assumptions about the relationship may not hold in all cases.

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Homework Statement


I read this line in my textbook:
"##PbS,CdS## are precipated in dilute solution only due to higher ##K_{sp}##"
And I googled about the relation between solubility and ##K_{sp}## and I found that:
"More is the ##K_{sp}## of a salt more it is soluble in a solution(I think water)"
So are the two statements in accordance to each other?If no then which one is wrong?

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I am confused. I do think that one of these lines should be wrong and I would prefer the first one. But I am not sure about it because of which I have asked it here.
 
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Like any equilibrium constant, for the reaction aA + bB <===> cC + dD, K = [C]^c[D]^d/ ([A]^a^b).

Therefore, if your reaction is solid <===> solute then a higher Ksp will mean that more solute will dissolve in the solution. (Note that in the equilibrium constant you don't include the solids, so in this case Ksp = [solute])

I'm also confused about the first statement, but I know the above is true
 
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x86 said:
Therefore, if your reaction is solid <===> solute then a higher Ksp will mean that more solute will dissolve in the solution.
So, using your statement in this line
mooncrater said:
"##PbS,CdS## are precipated in dilute solution only due to ## higher ## ##K_{sp}##"
I may say that instead of ##higher## it should be ##lower##.
What do you think?
 
Yes, that makes sense. If Ksp is really low then there will be very low solubility.
 
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You may already know this, but be careful using Ksp as an indication of solubility. You can use Ksp to compare solubility only if the salt ionization ratios are the same. If not, you'll need to use the solubility equation for the ionization ratio. Here's an example where you can get into trouble... Consider single salt saturated aqueous solutions of MgCO3 (Ksp = 1 x 10-5) and BaF2 (Ksp = 1 x 10-6). Is MgCO3 more soluble than BaF2 because it has a larger Ksp-value? NO!

Solubility of MgCO3 = (Ksp)1/2 = (1x10-5)1/2 = 0.0032M b/c MgCO3 has a 1:1 ionization ratio

Solubility of BaF2 = (Ksp/4)1/3 = (1 x 10-6/4)1/3 = 0.0063M b/c BaF2 has a 1:2 ionization ratio

Solubility of BaF2 > Solubility of MgCO3 ... Just an FYI...
Have a good day.:wink:
 
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