Are there any advantanges to VB theory over MO theory?

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The discussion explores the advantages and limitations of valence bond (VB) theory compared to molecular orbital (MO) theory in explaining chemical phenomena. Participants examine specific cases where each theory may provide unique insights or explanations, focusing on theoretical implications and computational aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire whether there are phenomena explained by VB theory that cannot be explained by MO theory.
  • One participant claims that VB theory can yield stable F2 molecules, which Hartree Fock theory does not, but notes that VB theory can become cumbersome for metallic or semi-metallic compounds due to the need for many resonance structures.
  • Another participant points out that back bonding in carbonyl metal complexes is a phenomenon that can only be explained by MO theory, as it involves antibonding orbitals, and mentions that cycloadditions can also be explained through MO phases.
  • A participant suggests that the Woodward Hoffmann rules can be explained by VB theory and provides resonance structures to illustrate back-bonding, indicating a simpler explanation through resonance.
  • One participant expresses appreciation for the resonance structures and their applicability to coordination complexes, indicating a potential for better understanding of complex properties.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether VB theory has distinct advantages over MO theory. Multiple competing views remain regarding the capabilities and limitations of each theory in explaining various chemical phenomena.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the computational intensity of VB calculations compared to Hartree Fock calculations, which may influence their practical application. The discussion also highlights the complexity of resonance structures in different contexts.

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Are there any things that can be explained by valence bond theory, that cannot be explained by molecular orbital theory? I know of various things that can only be explained by MO theory, and not VB theory, but does it go both ways?
 
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Yes, e.g. VB yields a molecule F2 while it isn't stable in Hartree Fock theory.
I don't think there are many things that can't be explained in VB theory but only in MO theory.
However, VB theory becomes cumbersome when you use it in metallic or semi-metallic componds
like Boranes as you need an excessive number of resonance structures.
Generally, VB calculations are much more accurate than Hartree Fock calculations but also much more
costly in terms of computing power.
 
One case that I know of that can be explained only by MO theory, are back bonding in carbonyl metal complexes (the C=O bond gets weakened by electron donation from the metal, AFAIK this can only be explained by considering antibonding orbitals). Another example is cycloadditions, i.e. you can explain why photoexcited 2 + 2 cycloadditions work, by considering the phases of the MOs. Maybe these things can be explained by VB theory too, I haven't put too much thought into it.
 
Thanks. Yeah, resonance structures explain it pretty simply alright. I didn't know resonance structures applies to coordination complexes like that. That'll help me a lot in understanding the properties of various complexes, thanks a lot.
 

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