Are there more Pulsars than we observe?

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The discussion centers around the question of whether there are more pulsars in the universe than currently observed. Participants explore the implications of pulsar visibility, the methods of counting them, and the potential for undiscovered pulsars, touching on theoretical and observational aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that pulsars can be likened to lighthouses, with their beams only visible if aligned with Earth, implying many may remain unseen.
  • Others argue that while we can count observed pulsars, the total number or density remains uncertain, relying on statistical estimates.
  • A participant questions whether all pulsars have been discovered, implying that it seems unlikely given the number of neutron stars estimated in the galaxy.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of information regarding the angular width of pulsar beams, which affects the likelihood of detection.
  • Some mention the potential for gravitational lensing to reveal distant pulsars, adding another layer of complexity to detection.
  • One participant notes that while there are a few thousand known pulsars, estimates suggest there could be significantly more neutron stars, indicating many pulsars may still be undiscovered.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the number of pulsars that may exist versus those currently observed. There is no consensus on the total number or the implications of visibility, leaving the discussion unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in current knowledge, such as the angular width of pulsar beams and the rapid spin-down of pulsars, which may affect the estimates of their total numbers.

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If Pulsars are like lighthouses, we only see the pulses if they are directly towards us.
Hello All

Dame Jocelyn Bell Burnell (the lady who was robbed of the Nobel Prize) described Pulsars to be like lighthouses, emitting a beam of high intensity light modulated by their spin, which we see as they 'flash' towards us.

Would we only see the beam as pulses if the Pulsar was spinning in a plane that intersected the Earth, which seems pretty unlikely. Therefore are there in fact many more Pulsars out there which we never see?

best regards ... Stef
 
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Are there more Pulsars than we observe?

The opposite of this is "have we discovered every last pulsar?" Isn't the answer to that obvious?
 
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The NASA animation and description are useful.

It doesn't give an estimate for the angular width (is that the correct phrase?) of the beam of energy, or even the theoretical min and max values. The wider this is, the more likely that beams will intercept the observer on Earth.
 
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Also, it apparently spins around too, giving it a greater chance of shining on us. And then there's the possibility of gravitational lensing catching one a really great distance from us.
 
saddlestone-man said:
Are there more Pulsars than we observe?
How could it possibly be otherwise?
 
We know of a few thousand pulsars, below is link to ATNF catalogue

https://www.atnf.csiro.au/research/pulsar/psrcat/

There are estimated 10^8 to 10^9 neutron stars in our galaxy. Only a small fraction will be pulsars, they spin down relatively quickly, but even so, probably plently left to discover.
 
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