Are Unanswered Mysteries a Sign of Pseudo-Science?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of unanswered mysteries in science and their potential association with pseudo-science. Participants explore various articles and claims related to miracles and scientific explanations, questioning the validity and interpretation of these phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the credibility of articles that claim certain events are miracles, suggesting that such claims ignore broader contexts and evidence.
  • Others argue that the interpretation of survival in disasters as divine protection is self-centered and overlooks the suffering of others.
  • A participant notes a perceived circular confirmation bias in how people reinforce their beliefs in miracles based on personal experiences.
  • There is confusion among participants regarding the content of an article that has changed over time, with multiple mentions of its original and revised versions.
  • Some participants criticize the persistence of certain ideologies, such as flat Earth beliefs, regardless of the source of information.
  • Concerns are raised about the impact of public perception and commentary on scientific credibility, particularly in relation to media outlets.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; instead, multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation of miracles, the validity of certain claims, and the influence of media on public understanding of science.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the evolving nature of the articles discussed, with participants noting significant changes that affect the context of their arguments. There is also a lack of clarity on the specific claims made in the articles, leading to confusion in responses.

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Looks like it's been pulled from Oprah.com; not sure how compelling any of it is.

It also links to an article which claims the season of Spring is a miracle. I was under the impression that "spring" was well understood.
 
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Or maybe it will take your faith in humanity down a notch.
Down a very tiny notch. I wrote CNN about it. Let's see if they respond.
 
Apparently CNN doesn't accept "hoax" as an answer. Weird.
 
This is a clear example of pick-and-choose. For example, the thing about the mosque remaining standing after the tsunami. If this is really "... a miracle that God's house of worship was spared the ocean's wrath..., then these people are ignoring the fact that there were reportedly http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?artid=17045&catid=13" by that tsunami, including 301 mosques. So why aren't they looking at some divine message on why those were destroyed?

In this part of the world, the house of worship tends to be built sturdier than the regular houses, mainly because it is often used and by a large number of people. It also tends to be money for constructions from various agencies, organizations, and/or govt. So they can spend a bit more in building it a bit better. So it isn't explainable that it is the only structure left standing.

Every time there is a disaster, and people who survive, or some building that survive, want to make seek some deeper meaning into such thing, point out to them of those that didn't. The thing that is very funny to me is that many of these people who survive one of these things always claim that god or some other beings were protecting them, or by the grace of something they're alive. They're forgetting that if they are so protected, they wouldn't have been in that disaster in the first place! They are also implying that those didn't make it were not deserving of such a thing, as if those people did something wrong to deserve their fate. How self-centered is that?

Zz.
 
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I don't think it matters anymore how bad the article is. The crowd that always keeps commenting there, and spamming with their ideologies still thinks that the Earth is flat. And it wouldn't matter which outlet the masses direct their attention to, CNN, YouTube, or Yahoo, net result is all the same.
 
I think there's a weird circular confirmation bias at play here. People tend to think their religious experiences (whatever they may choose to accept as a religious experience) are more profound simply because they believe them.

That is to say that once you believe a miracle, the fact that you believe it seems to become further evidence of the miracle which, in turn, further reinforces the belief.
 
Are you guys talking about the 'three things science can't explain' article or what cause some of the responses aren't making sense.
 
zomgwtf said:
Are you guys talking about the 'three things science can't explain' article or what cause some of the responses aren't making sense.

Woah! Did it change?! Like... significantly?!
 
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zomgwtf said:
Are you guys talking about the 'three things science can't explain' article or what cause some of the responses aren't making sense.
The article has been changed significantly from the original crackpot version. I guess I wasn't the only one that wrote them about it.
 
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Yeah, they deleted the first half of the article.
 
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They have a crackpot link to "spiritul healer john of god".
 

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