Area of figure, resulting from unit square transformation

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The discussion revolves around the area of a geometric figure resulting from the transformation of a unit square by a linear operator represented by a matrix. Participants explore the implications of the transformation, the representation of the unit square, and the calculation of the area of the resulting figure.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a matrix A representing a linear operator on R^2 and questions the area of the transformed figure from the unit square.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the representation of the unit square, suggesting that the matrix format used is incorrect.
  • A third participant proposes that the transformation involves finding the product of the matrix A and the unit square, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the transformation process.
  • A later reply clarifies that the unit square is a geometric figure with specific vertices and provides the mappings of the square's sides under the transformation, concluding that the resulting figure is a parallelogram.
  • It is noted that the determinant of the transformation matrix is 3, which relates to the area of the transformed figure.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the representation of the unit square and the understanding of the transformation process. There is no consensus on the correct approach to finding the area of the transformed figure.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the understanding of how the unit square is represented in matrix form and the implications of the linear transformation on the geometric figure. Some assumptions about the transformation process remain unresolved.

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1- Let the linear operator on R^2 have the following matrix:A = 1 0
-1 3

What is the area of the figure that results from applying this transformation to the unit square?

2- I am abit confused here, I thought that the matrix for the unit square would be,
0 0
1 0
0 1
1 1...
But apparently that is not it.

And after finding the unit square matrix, I blv I would find the images of it by computing A^Tx

I am not sure though
 
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A square would be four points. You seem to have collected four points that make up one particular unit square, and arranged them as a 2x4 array. That is kind of odd.

What does it mean to be a linear operator on R^2? What does the operator A operate on? Hint: R^2 means there are two real numbers involved. But there seem to be 8 real numbers involved in your square. So how is that going to work?
 
oh. ok, so are they asking to find the Ax? where x would be the unit square.. so like
[10. ] [ 1 0]
[ 1 3 ] [ 01 ] ...
 
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anyone?
 
That matrix is NOT the unit square. The unit square is a geometric figure, not a matrix, that has vertices at (0, 0), (1, 0), (1, 1), and (0, 1).
The bottom side, from (0, 0) to (1, 0), the vector [itex]\begin{bmatrix}1 \\ 0 \end{bmatrix}[/itex], is mapped into
[tex]\begin{bmatrix}1 & 0 \\ -1 & 3\end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}1 \\ 0 \end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix}1 \\ -1\end{bmatrix}[/tex]

The left side, from (0, 0) to (0, 1), the vector [itex]\begin{bmatrix}0 \\ 1 \end{bmatrix}[/itex], is mapped into
[tex]\begin{bmatrix}1 & 0 \\ -1 & 3 \end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}0 \\ 1 \end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix}0 \\ 3\end{bmatrix}[/tex]

The other two sides get mapped into equivalent vectors so this is a parallelogram with vertices at (0, 0), (1, -1), (1, 2), and (0, 3).
It should be easy to find the area of that parallelogram.

(And, it is worth noting that this matrix has determinant 3.)
 

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