Argument for Holographic Principle

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The discussion centers on Leonard Susskind's argument regarding the Holographic Principle, specifically the relationship between information in black holes and the cosmological horizon. Susskind posits that the information contained within a black hole is equivalent to the information on its surface, suggesting a fundamental connection between 3D and 2D information. The conversation critiques the notion that reality could be a virtual construct, emphasizing that data compression is possible in our universe, which supports the idea of a tangible reality. Ultimately, the participants question the implications of viewing our universe as a model of another, highlighting the inadequacies of such interpretations.

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So around 44:00, Susskind begins his argument.

He put a variety of items into a region of space, and the added a minimal shell of material surrounding the items, then squeezed that material to form a black hole around the item.

Then he said that the amount of original information cannot be more than the amount of information hidden in the black hole. The information in a black hole is tantamount to the information on it's surface.

It's a very interesting argument. But how does it rigorous connect to information being encoded on the cosmological horizon. We know that its not the event horizon of a black hole. We know that a shell wasn't surrounding far away, and then compressed into a black hole. So where's the connection besides the fact that they are both horizons?

All it shows is that 3d information is equivalent to 2d info. But if the info isn't at the horizon, then there wouldn't be any projection.
 
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Data can be compressed.
However when you have it compressed in cannot be re-compressed.
If what we take to be reality was a virtual reality, it would not be possible to compress data in the Universe we know of.
We can compress data though, so real really is real.
 
rootone said:
Data can be compressed.
However when you have it compressed in cannot be re-compressed.
If what we take to be reality was a virtual reality, it would not be possible to compress data in the Universe we know of.
We can compress data though, so real really is real.

So the most compressed data is the reality and anything else is extraneous and does not contribute?
 
Personally I believe that the universe we observe is what we observed it to be.
I mean so what?, if what we see is actually is a model of some other universe?
Occam's razor doesn't look good for that, and the idea does't explain what the original universe must have been,
before somebody did a 720p video of it.
 

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