Article about making physics degree more employable

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The discussion revolves around the employability of physics graduates, particularly in relation to pursuing mechanical engineering. Participants explore the implications of additional coursework in mechanical engineering and the potential pathways to licensure as a Professional Engineer (PE).

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern about the feasibility of taking additional mechanical engineering classes given their current academic schedules and degree requirements.
  • Others argue that majoring in mechanical engineering is the most straightforward path for those interested in that field.
  • One participant suggests that pursuing a master's degree in mechanical engineering could be a viable alternative for those nearing completion of their physics degree.
  • There is a discussion about the evolving requirements for Professional Engineer licensure, with some noting that changes may allow individuals with a science degree and engineering coursework to qualify.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of taking mechanical engineering classes at the undergraduate level to ensure a solid foundation and confirm interest in the field.
  • Concerns are raised about the reliability of future licensure pathways and the necessity of having a strong background in engineering for effective graduate study.
  • It is noted that requirements for licensure can vary by state, leading to differing opinions on the necessity of a B.S. in engineering.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and timing of taking mechanical engineering classes, as well as the pathways to licensure. No consensus is reached on the best approach for transitioning from a physics background to a career in mechanical engineering.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to academic schedules, the availability of minors, and the variability of licensure requirements across different states.

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what do you guys think of this?
http://physicspost.com/articles.php?articleId=211&page=2

that part where he said that if you want to go into mechanical engineering, you should spend another semester taking mechE classes

the problem I'm having is that, since i go by the quarter/trimester system, and only need 4 classes each to complete my applied math and physics B.S. degrees, i don't really have room to take mechE classes. also, if i were to go into mechE, i would get at least a M.S., so i could always take those mechE classes as a grad student, right?
 
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cypherscouter said:
that part where he said that if you want to go into mechanical engineering, you should spend another semester taking mechE classes

I didn't get that from the article at all. I would think that if you want to go into mechanical engineering, you should major in mechanical engineering.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
I didn't get that from the article at all. I would think that if you want to go into mechanical engineering, you should major in mechanical engineering.



Makes the most sense.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
I didn't get that from the article at all. I would think that if you want to go into mechanical engineering, you should major in mechanical engineering.

i meant if one is almost done with college, hence its too late to major in mechanical engineering
 
If you want to be a mechanical engineer, and haven't taken enough mechanical engineering courses, you're not "almost done with college", are you?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
If you want to be a mechanical engineer, and haven't taken enough mechanical engineering courses, you're not "almost done with college", are you?

yes, I'm almost done as i only need 4 more classes to complete the physics major
 
I think you're missing my point. My point is that you are in college to learn, not to finish on some timetable. If you want to learn mechanical engineering, and need N more classes to get a BSME degree, you need N more classes to get a BSME degree. Whether or not you need fewer than N classes to get some other degree is simply not relevant.
 
I tend to agree with the OP that another option is to apply to master's programs in mechanical engineering (if the student is resourceful, he/she might find funding for this). at his point, to get PE certification, you need an BS in an accredited engineering program, but I believe it's in the works to eventually (2012?) Allow individuals with a science degree and ~30 credits in MS-level engineering coursework (or the MS degree itself) to apply for the Professional Engineer licensure.

I'd still think that at this point it'd be advisable for the OP to take a few mechanical engineering classes at the BS-level... to give himself/herself a bit of background in the field AND make sure it's really the career path that he/she would like to pursue. Perhaps it's be best to do this and drop one of the majors (applied math & physics) down to a minor.
 
physics girl phd said:
but I believe it's in the works to eventually (2012?) Allow individuals with a science degree and ~30 credits in MS-level engineering coursework (or the MS degree itself) to apply for the Professional Engineer licensure.

I'm not so sure I'd be willing to risk my career based on a path to licensure "in the works". Furthermore, to study engineering effectively at the graduate level, one needs more or less a BS level equivalent in the engineering specialty anyway.
 
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physics girl phd said:
I'd still think that at this point it'd be advisable for the OP to take a few mechanical engineering classes at the BS-level... to give himself/herself a bit of background in the field AND make sure it's really the career path that he/she would like to pursue. Perhaps it's be best to do this and drop one of the majors (applied math & physics) down to a minor.

what if i only need 4 classes for each major? (we're on the trimester system)
oh, also, my school doesn't even offer a minor in physics
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
I'm not so sure I'd be willing to risk my career based on a path to licensure "in the works". Furthermore, to study engineering effectively at the graduate level, one needs more or less a BS level equivalent in the engineering specialty anyway.

You don't necessarily need a B.S. in engineering to become licensed. Also, many engineering departments will let you take remedial undergraduate classes while being enrolled in a masters program.
 
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Brian_C said:
You don't necessarily need a B.S. in engineering to become licensed.

Depends on the state.

While it's certainly silly that some states won't license a person with a BS in physics, and an MS and PhD in engineering, that's how they operate.
 

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