Asians - 70% of a future US brain power?

[zoobyshoe]

One segment dealt entirely with a problem that China emerged with when they started to modernize. Their students although brilliant and disciplined, had never been allowed to think on their own, let alone think outside of the box.

The end result was that they had a lack of inventiveness and innovation. They started sending students here for schooling. At home , as one Chinese businessman put it, they bought innovation from America.

So, the Chinese felt this was going well?

 

[thorium1010]

Still, everyone knows the attachment of the Indian Sub-Continent to Asia was the result of an ancient inelastic collision. It's really a separate continent that got artificially tacked on.

Really , so you are using continental drift to say some part of asia is not truly asia ?

btw, as seen in this thread asians are not only chinese. That creates more confusion than simply referring them to as chinese, vietnamese, malaysians etc.

 

[zoobyshoe]

It's logical enough in the UK for at least two reasons. First there are about 4 or 5 times as many Indians/Pakistanis as there are "far east Asians". The next largest group, the Chinese, are called "Chinese", not "Asians". Other far eastern countries barely register on the immigration radar in the UK.

Second, following the aftermath of Indian independence, the distinction between Indian and Pakistani is often a matter of accidents of history and/or religious persecution rather than geography, and "Asian" is a useful neutral description for those whose paperwork doesn't match their family history.

Not to mention the Indian/Pakistani Asians who arrived in the UK via Africa, for example the refugees from Idi Amin in Uganda in the early 1970s who are still known as "Ugandan Asians".

I suppose if you wanted to call India Asia, that'd be OK, so long as you called the rest of it "Chinesia" or something similar. If one doesn't make a distinction between such distinct peoples, there wouldn't really be a reason to separate Europe from the Middle East. That's not aimed at the UK, in particular because, apparently, we, the US, officially call India a part of Asia as well. Which I didn't know till your previous post.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

Brazil has a bad reputation as a country that accepted German WWII war criminals after the war. That may be what you heard about.

It looks like the Japanese influx preceded that by a long time and that they had a bad time of it in Brazil for many decades:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Brazilian

Yep, scrap what I said.
The japanese came here at the beginning of the 20 century, now the question is, how wealthy were they?
I believe not much since Japan was not a very rich country at that time. Funny thing they choose Brazil and not some richer country like the USA or Canada.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

In real life it is actually very difficult to find a "lazy" Mexican. I suppose there are some, but they don't represent the norm.

I had missed this comment. I don't know how lazy Mexican immigrants might be as compared to anyone else, but as a whole, those folks know how to work! Even now, Alabama is changing a stiff immigration law because, guess what, Americans don't want their jobs! The work is far too hard and it takes several seasons to gain proficiency in the fields.

When I was about seventeen I got a summer painting job at Thermo King. We had two groups of gringos and one group of Mexicans [probably illegals]. The Mexicans did more than our other two groups put together! It was downright embarrassing. [Course I was in the group with the owners kid so we just screwed around half the time].

 

[Office_Shredder]

Even now, Alabama is changing a stiff immigration law because, guess what, Americans don't want their jobs! The work is far too hard and it takes several seasons to gain proficiency in the fields.

I thought it was because they were making a habit of pulling over Japanese executives who were trying to run automobile factories in the state

 

[Ivan Seeking]

I thought it was because they were making a habit of pulling over Japanese executives who were trying to run automobile factories in the state

Sorry, that does appear to be what boiled things to the surface. I haven't been keeping up like I used to.

However, there has been a rising tide of complaints from farmers who are desperate for help, as is indicated wrt to Alabama as well. It seems that in Alabama, they have realized that there are all sorts of unintended consequences.

Some of Alabama’s farm crops — its Sand Mountain tomatoes, for example — have rotted in the fields, as legal and illegal immigrant workers have left the state. Towns and cities report that small businesses targeting Hispanic workers have had to close their doors for a lack of customers.

By far the worst consequence is the damage done to the state’s economic development efforts. Earlier this month, Tuscaloosa authorities arrested a Mercedes-Benz manager from Germany, embarrassing a company that Alabama worked long and hard to lure to Vance.

http://blog.al.com/press-register-commentary/2011/11/repeal_alabamas_immigration_la.html