Assignment where i have to make conjectures.

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The discussion revolves around making conjectures in mathematics, specifically related to divisibility and the concept of converses in logical statements. The original poster is working on conjectures involving functions and prime numbers, and is seeking clarification on how to formulate converses of their conjectures.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the concept of a converse and how it relates to their conjectures. They express confusion about whether a converse is a counter-argument.
  • Participants provide definitions and examples of converses, clarifying the logical structure of statements and their converses.
  • Some participants suggest that the original poster reformulate their conjectures into a clear if-then structure to facilitate the creation of converses.
  • There is discussion about the specific conjectures being made and their historical context, including references to Fermat's little theorem and pseudoprimes.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to properly formulate conjectures and their converses. There is a mix of interpretations and clarifications being explored, particularly regarding the structure of the conjectures and the nature of converses.

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The original poster is navigating the requirements of an assignment that involves making conjectures, and there is a mention of needing to reference materials appropriately in their work.

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I am in the process of completing an assignment where i have to make conjectures. As of now I have made conjectures that for function P(n)=(n^x)-n is divisible by x for all x that are prime numbers,

And that for x choose r=k, k belonging to the natural numbers, that k is a multiple of x when r=2.

Now I have to make a converse, I have absolutely no idea what a converse is. Through googling "converse conjecture" I have an idea that a converse is a counter-argument to my arguments, but that would mean I would have to contradict myself?

Help and input much appreciated.
 
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The converse to "if a then b" is "if b then a". You just switch the "hypothesis" (a) and the conclusion (b). No, a "converse" is NOT counter-argument. I don't know how you got that impression.

Notice that the converse of "if b then a" is "if a then b" because we have just swapped the hypothesis and conclusion back again.

For example, if the statement is "if n is divisible by 6 then it is divisible by 2", then its converse would be "if n is divisible by 2 then it is divisible by 6". Notice that, in this case, the first statement is true but the second statement is false.

Another example would be "if n is divisible by both 2 and 3 then it is divisible by 6" which has converse "if n is divisible by 6 then it is divisible by both 2 and 3". In this case, both the statement and the converse are true.

Knowing the original statement is true tells you nothing about whether the converse is true or false (and "conversely").
 


Thanks.
So for my first conjecture n^x-n is divisible by x that are prime numbers then the converse would be if n^x-n and x is a prime number than n^x-n is divisible by x?
 


Try and state the conjecture clearly in an if-then form. Your conjecture is "IF p is prime THEN n^p-n is divisible by p for all n". Now it's easy to state the converse. Just reverse the IF and THEN parts. Try it. Both are interesting questions and have names and history.
 


If x is a prime number than n^x-n is divisible by x
Converse: If n^x-n is divisible by n then x is a prime number

If r is 2 then x choose r is divisible by x
Converse: If x choose r is divisible by x then r=2

Is that it?:D

Also any chance you could give me the name to this problem? I've tried googling it to no avail.
 


You are leaving out the "for all n" part. But, ok. And in the converse I hope you meant n^x-n is divisible by x, there's no reason to reverse n and x. The conjecture is Fermat's little theorem. It's true. The converse is the problem of pseudoprimes. It's false.
 
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Thanks Dick
 


When I'm doing an assignment for math, is there a specific way to make references? For example, I am copying a passage from the late Dijkstra's personal website.
 

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