first of all, i am an aspiring EE student. At my school (as with many), students must actually apply to the engineering school usually at the end of their sophomore year. There are exceptions, such as early admission or direct freshmen admission, but most just do sophomore year. Ok so i kind of have a strange grade trend. Most people get into college and their grades drop because of the significantly increased workload. I actually started out college getting 4.0s and 3.9s, and not in exactly easy classes either (calculus series, diff equations, physics, well these are intro so i guess they are relativelyeasy ...) but then i started to tank BAD. I don't know how, maybe i got "depressed" or soemthing and need counseling (i dunno everyone suggests this to me but i don't really feel depressed), but i really have gotten incredibly lazy. Anyways, i'm not going to explain everything cause there is really nothing to say. I simply just got slacker-ish, and now i have been pretty much getting Ds and Cs for the past few quarters. I am reaching the end of sophomore year, which is the time pre engineering majors apply into their respective departments for admission. Most people who have around 3.2 get into most departments like electrical, civil, aeronatical, mechanical, whereas more competitive departments such as Bio and Computer science have an average entrance gpa of 3.6. Now i clearly don't fall into either category. If i get lucky i might have barely a 3.0 by the end of the year just cause of the fluff i've built myself with early 4.0s, but i doubt i'll get into any department. Anyways, this doesn't concern me that much. While most people enter the departments at the sophomore year, it isn't uncommon for people to enter their departments senior or, or spring of junior year. SO i am shooting for those. I am SERIOUSLY going to try to get my grades up during junior year, and the final quarter of my sophomore year. I might even throw in summer school to try and fluff my GPA. If i can't pull my GPA up to atleast a 3.3 i'm kissing engineering goodbye and just transferring to an open major such as construction management or applied mathematics (with emphasis on engineering). However, even if i do manage to get my grades up, how the hell would i go about explaining to the department this period of several quarters where i got only Cs and Ds and maybe a low B? O yea, and the departments do not encourage faculty letters of recommendation, so i can't just kiss a profs as s in hopes that he'll get me in.