Badly worded question? (chemical vs physical changes)

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of a homework question regarding changes that affect the composition of the atmosphere, specifically distinguishing between physical changes and chemical reactions. Participants explore various scenarios related to human activities, such as the combustion of fossil fuels, and their effects on greenhouse gases and aerosols.

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  • Homework-related
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about whether the question is asking about the combustion of fossil fuels as a chemical change or the resulting increase in greenhouse gases and aerosols as physical changes.
  • There is a suggestion that the increase in greenhouse gases could be viewed as a physical change, despite being a result of a chemical process (combustion).
  • Some participants argue that the question is ambiguous and could benefit from being framed as an open question to assess understanding of the underlying processes.
  • One participant proposes that the increase in greenhouse gases should be described in terms of changes in amount and concentration rather than volume.
  • Another participant asserts that while the combustion of fossil fuels is a chemical change, the increase in greenhouse gases could be considered a physical change, leading to further debate about the classification of these scenarios.
  • There is a disagreement regarding whether the classification of scenarios is correct, with some participants stating that feedback from the question indicated incorrect sorting.
  • Some participants discuss the chemical effects of sulfur and the role of aerosols in scattering light, suggesting a need for clarity in the question's intent.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the question is poorly worded and ambiguous. However, there is no consensus on how to classify the scenarios, with multiple competing views on the nature of the changes involved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the question's clarity, particularly regarding the definitions of physical and chemical changes and the specific scenarios presented. There are unresolved aspects concerning the classification of the effects of combustion and the resultant changes in atmospheric composition.

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Homework Statement


The question states: "Which of following changes that affect the composition of our atmosphere involve physical changes and which involve chemical reactions?"
Then the question lists 6 different scenarios and I have to sort them into either "chemical reaction" or "physical change".
Two of the the scenarios are:
"human activities such as the combustion of fossil fuels has increased the levels of greenhouse gases."
"human activities such as the combustion of fossil fuels generate aerosols."

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I realize that combustion is always a chemical change, but when they list two effects of it, that's what confusing me. Is the question asking whether the combustion of fossil fuels is chemical or physical, or is it asking whether increased greenhouse gases and the generation of aerosols are chemical or physical? thanks
 
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sp3sp2sp said:

Homework Statement


The question states: "Which of following changes that affect the composition of our atmosphere involve physical changes and which involve chemical reactions?"
Then the question lists 6 different scenarios and I have to sort them into either "chemical reaction" or "physical change".
Two of the the scenarios are:
"human activities such as the combustion of fossil fuels has increased the levels of greenhouse gases."
"human activities such as the combustion of fossil fuels generate aerosols."

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I realize that combustion is always a chemical change, but when they list two effects of it, that's what confusing me. Is the question asking whether the combustion of fossil fuels is chemical or physical, or is it asking whether increased greenhouse gases and the generation of aerosols are chemical or physical? thanks
Do you have some scenarios for which both answers would be true? If so, could you list them them in both categories and designate the part of the scenario that applies to each category?
 
Increase in greenhouse gases is a physical change but those gases come from the burning of fossil fuels. Thats why I think the question is ambiguous isn't it? I don't have option to choose both categories
 
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Increase in greenhouse gases is a physical change but those gases come from the burning of fossil fuels. Thats why I think the question is ambiguous isn't it? I don't have option to choose both categories
Maybe you could look at the processes involved. Can you write chemical formulae for production of greenhouse gases? How about for aerosols?
 
I agree, question is ambiguous. It would be a quite nice open question, checking your understanding of the processes involved, but if you are expected to classify it just confuses.
 
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But just to make sure I am correct that it actually is badly worded, isn't it because:

Burning of fossil fuels is a chemical change (combustion).
Increase in greenhouse gases is a physical change (simply an increase in V of gases)

Is this correct?
 
Yes, more or less. I would prefer to speak about change of amount and concentration of greenhouses than about change in their volume (even if technically that's correct).
 
It is a badly worded question but I would just answer chemical for the first and physical for the second.

We aren't adding C02 to the atmosphere. We are mostly taking oxygen out, chemically altering it by reacting it with carbon and putting it back.

Edit: Actually we are releasing CO2 by causing chalk/calcium carbonate to be dissolved at an increasing rate.
 
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We aren't adding C02 to the atmosphere. We are mostly taking oxygen out, chemically altering it by reacting it with carbon and putting it back.

Edit: Actually we are releasing CO2 by causing chalk/calcium carbonate to be dissolved at an increasing rate.

Can you elaborate? I have a hard time trying to understand what you mean.

By my book we are removing the O2 and replacing it with an equimolar amount of CO2. As in effect the amount of CO2 in atmosphere grows I see no problem with using the word "adding".
 
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Incorrect! I answered that
"human activities such as the combustion of fossil fuels has increased the levels of greenhouse gases." = chemical change.
"human activities such as the combustion of fossil fuels generate aerosols." = physical change
=wrong. (doesnt specify whether one or both are wrong)

edit: sorry it actually gave feedback..says that "1 out of the 5 items were sorted incorrectly"
 

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