Banked Road Physics Problem: Maximum Speed Calculation

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a car navigating a banked curve. The scenario includes parameters such as the angle of the bank, radius of curvature, and coefficient of static friction, with participants exploring the maximum speed for safe travel on the ramp.

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  • Participants discuss various calculations related to the maximum speed, with some questioning the accuracy of the original poster's solution. There are attempts to clarify the free body diagram and the forces acting on the car, including friction and normal force. Some participants suggest alternative methods for deriving the maximum speed.

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The discussion is ongoing, with multiple interpretations of the problem being explored. Some participants express confidence in their calculations, while others raise concerns about assumptions made in the analysis. Guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between forces, but no consensus has been reached.

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A car is moving along a banked highway on a ramp that is banked at an angle of 14 degrees to the horizontal. The radius of curvature of the bank is 264m and the coefficient of static friction is 0.67. What is the max speed that the car can travel and safely stay on the ramp? (Ans: The max speed to negotiate the turn on a banked curve is 28.5 m/s)

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Attempt at solution in uploaded picture. I don't think i did anything wrong...is the solution manual possibly incorrect?
 

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mr1709 said:
A car is moving along a banked highway on a ramp that is banked at an angle of 14 degrees to the horizontal. The radius of curvature of the bank is 264m and the coefficient of static friction is 0.67. What is the max speed that the car can travel and safely stay on the ramp? (Ans: The max speed to negotiate the turn on a banked curve is 28.5 m/s)

the maximum speed comes around 50 m/s- your

attempt shows 54m/s, so, please check the calculation
i could not get your free body diagram? in my opinion f(.n) = mg .cos(theta) and

mg sin (theta) should act along the slope and frictional force should be mu (s).f(n).
 
Your solution looks fine to me. What book is this from?
 
drvrm said:
in my opinion f(.n) = mg .cos(theta)
I would not make that assumption. (That would hold for the standard block sliding down an incline problem, but not for this problem where the acceleration is horizontal, not parallel to the surface.)
 
Doc Al said:
Your solution looks fine to me. What book is this from?

Im not sure. It was a print out sheet my physics teacher gave the class to practice for our upcoming test. Thanks for input
 
I agree with 53.5 m/s.
There is a slightly easier way to get there.
##mg=N\cos(\theta)-\mu N\sin(\theta)##
##m\frac{v^2}r=N\sin(\theta)+\mu N\cos(\theta)##
Dividing
##\frac{v^2}{gr}=\frac{\tan(\theta)+\mu}{1-\mu\tan(\theta)}##
##=\tan(\theta+\arctan(\mu))##
 

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