Biomechanics I, somersault question using angular accel/ vel

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The problem involves a diver performing somersaults during a dive from a height, focusing on angular velocity, angular acceleration, and the application of kinematic equations in both linear and rotational contexts.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of linear kinematics to the problem, questioning whether it is appropriate given the rotational nature of the dive.
  • There are attempts to calculate the number of somersaults based on angular velocity and time, with some confusion regarding the correct use of equations and conversions between radians and complete rotations.
  • Questions arise about the interpretation of angular displacement in relation to the number of somersaults performed.
  • Some participants clarify the mathematical operations involved in the calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on calculations and exploring the relationship between linear and angular kinematics. There is no explicit consensus yet, but some guidance has been offered regarding the use of kinematic laws.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of combining linear motion with rotational dynamics, particularly in the context of a diving scenario, while adhering to homework constraints.

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Homework Statement


An athlete performs a dive from a handstand off a 10m tower. her center of mass is 0.8m above the tower as she falls into the dive

a) if she can rotate at 5.7rad/s in a tucked position, how many complete somersaults can she do in her dive? assume she must stop rotating 1m above the water to ensure clean entry

b) if she can perform 3 somersualts in a piked position in the same amount of time, what is her angular velocity when performing piked somersautls?

c) the diver is performing a piked dive. she realizes that she won't have enough time to finish her last somersialt and enter the water in a vertical position, so she moves into a tucked position over 0.2s. What is her anguar accel


Homework Equations


v2^2 = v1^2 + 2ad
v2 = v1 +at
angular vel = change in angular displacement / time
alpha = (w2 - w1)/ (t2 - t1)

The Attempt at a Solution


a) i used, v2^2 = v1^2 + 2ad to determine that v2 = - 13.87m/s 1m from the water
and then i used, v2 = v1 +at to determine it take t= 1.41s to reach 1m above water
can i use kinematic laws in this question, or does the diver's somersaults complicate the question?
i then used 5.7rad/s x 1.41s = 8.0569 rad
8.0569rad x 1somersault/2pie radians = 12.66 somersaults (12 complete somersaults)
*EDIT* 8.0569rad x1somersault/2pie rad = 1.28 somersaults (1 complete somersualt)

is it correct to do this?
or would the t = 1s since she has 9.8m to perform somersualts and gravity is -9.81m/s^2?

b) i tired to use, w = change is angular displacement/ t
is angular displacement 0 since she returns to the same position (3 full somersuats)?

c) i tried alpha = (w2 - w1)/ (t2 - t1)
i was going to plug in, 5.7rads/s for w2, and my answer in question b) into w1
and then t= 0.2s

any help would be appreciated =) thank you
 
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Be careful dividing by 2π using a calculator. 2π ≈ 6.3 . Certainly 8.1/6.3 ≠ 12.

I'm pretty sure what you did was 8.0569rad × 1somersault/2×π . Using order of operations, this is (8.0569rad × 1somersault/2)×π, so you multiplied by π, rather than dividing.
 
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is it correct to apply linear kinetics laws to determine the answer for 1a)?
 
jklgfds120 said:
thank you
is it correct to apply linear kinetics laws to determine the answer for 1a)?

If you mean "Are angular (rotational) kinematics analogous to linear kinematics?", then, yes, you use them the same way.
 

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