Black hole evaporation mechanism

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mechanism of black hole evaporation, specifically through the concept of Hawking radiation. Participants explore theoretical implications, challenges to common interpretations, and the nuances of particle behavior near event horizons.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe a scenario where an electron-positron pair is created, with the positron escaping to infinity and the electron falling into the singularity, raising questions about the implications for black hole mass.
  • Others argue that the common descriptions of black hole evaporation in popular media may be misleading and do not accurately reflect the underlying physics.
  • A participant references the original paper on Hawking radiation, emphasizing that heuristic descriptions should not be taken too literally.
  • One participant suggests that while the process involves negative energy falling into the black hole and positive energy escaping, this explanation is also incomplete.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of Hawking radiation and its implications for black hole mass, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the descriptions provided, including assumptions about particle behavior and the complexity of the underlying mathematics, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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Evaporation of a black hole by Hawking radiation defies common sense. Let us assume that a vacuum fluctuation leads to the birth of an electron-positron pair, with an electron being born below the event horizon and a positron above the event horizon. The positron flies away to infinity. But the electron falls into the central singularity. In this case, there is an increase in mass in the singularity! How is this process related to the “evaporation” of a black hole? The mass at the singular point increases.
 
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Gingerot said:
with an electron being born below the event horizon and a positron above the event horizon. The positron flies away to infinity
Don't you think that's a bit naive ?

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Gingerot said:
How is this process related to the “evaporation” of a black hole?
It isn’t. You’ll see Hawking radiation described that way in the popular press, but that’s not what’s really going on and it will confuse you if you take it too seriously.
 
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from the original paper on what is now called Hawking Radiation:

(in talking about the particle-pair description): It should be emphasized that these pictures of the mechanism responsible for the thermal emission and area decrease are heuristic only and should not be taken too literally.
 
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There is no good math-free way of describing how Hawking radiation works, which is why so many pop-sci writers fall back on the misleading “explanation” you’ve seen.

The process can be described as negative energy falling into the black hole while positive energy escapes out to infinity, but that’s not a complete either. You will get some help from here and you can get the real thing from Hawking himself here.
 
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