Black hole laser or condensate?

In summary, when a beam of light is shined at a black hole, most of it will either fall into the black hole or graze past it with minimal bending. However, a photon with the specific angular momentum per energy of M√27 will orbit forever around the black hole at a distance of r = 3M, while photons with slightly higher L/E will orbit multiple times before escaping to infinity. This phenomenon is similar to the behavior of lasers or Bose condensates, but due to tunneling effects and the uncertainty principle, it is unlikely for a state of matter to form outside the photon sphere. The situation may be different for a rotating black hole, but the basic principles remain the same.
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If you shine a beam of light at a black hole, most of it will either fall into the black hole, or will just graze past it, hardly being bent at all.

But any photon that just happens to have L/E (angular momentum per energy) = M√27 will orbit forever (or until it hits infalling matter), with period ever closer to 2πM√27, getting closer and closer to the photon sphere (r = 3M) but never quite reaching it.

Also, photons with L/E very slightly greater than M√27 will orbit a large number of times with almost the same period, before escaping to infinity.

(The above figures are for a non-rotating black hole, but I think the situation for a rotating one is substantially the same, except that there is a different radius of photon sphere for each angle of approach, and the orbits precess round the photon sphere.)

Now, I've never really understood lasers or condensates :redface:

but since starlight must be doing this all the time, producing photons orbiting with almost the same period, will photons (of the same wavelength) tend to become coherent, and either form a laser, or (is this another way of saying the same thing? :redface:) form a state of matter just outside the photon sphere something like a Bose condensate? :confused:
 
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I like your way of thinking ;)

But I doubt that such a state will hold, due to tunneling effects and the uncertainty relation. Any disturbace will destroy such a state.
 
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Well, considering that the non-linear Schroedinger equation describing a Bose condensate (a.k.a. the Gross-Pitaevski equation) is completely analogous to what the Maxwell equations are for photons, you could just solve the Maxwell equations in a Schwarzschild metric to see what happens. :smile:
 

1. What is a black hole laser?

A black hole laser is a theoretical concept in which a black hole is used as a source of intense, coherent radiation. This radiation is emitted from the accretion disk of the black hole and amplified by the extreme gravitational forces near the event horizon.

2. How does a black hole laser work?

A black hole laser works by taking advantage of a process called stimulated emission, similar to how a traditional laser works. As matter falls towards the black hole, it emits radiation, which is then amplified by the gravitational forces near the event horizon. This amplified radiation then escapes the black hole in a coherent beam, creating a laser-like effect.

3. Are black hole lasers real?

Currently, black hole lasers are purely theoretical and have not been observed in nature. However, scientists have conducted simulations and experiments to support the possibility of their existence. More research and observations are needed to confirm the existence of black hole lasers.

4. What is a Bose-Einstein condensate?

A Bose-Einstein condensate is a state of matter in which a large number of particles, typically atoms, are cooled to near absolute zero temperature. In this state, the particles behave as a single entity and exhibit quantum phenomena on a macroscopic scale.

5. How can black hole lasers and Bose-Einstein condensates be related?

Some scientists have proposed that black hole lasers may be created by using Bose-Einstein condensates. The extreme conditions near a black hole, such as high temperatures and strong gravitational forces, may be able to create a Bose-Einstein condensate, which could then be used to amplify the radiation emitted from the black hole and create a black hole laser.

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