Black holes: Some astronomers detected flashes of x-ray in the cosmos

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The discussion revolves around the detection of x-ray flashes associated with black holes, focusing on the mechanisms of x-ray radiation in relation to black holes and the conditions surrounding their event horizons. Participants explore theoretical and observational aspects of black hole accretion disks and the nature of radiation emitted in these extreme environments.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that x-ray radiation can only be detected from matter that is heated to millions of degrees before it crosses the event horizon of a black hole.
  • Questions are raised about how radiation can escape the strong gravitational pull of a black hole, given that light cannot escape from within the event horizon.
  • It is suggested that radiation is emitted from the accretion disk, which exists outside the event horizon, and that intense conditions in this region can lead to significant x-ray emissions.
  • One participant notes that the tidal forces experienced by objects falling into black holes vary depending on the size of the black hole, with super-massive black holes having different tidal force characteristics compared to smaller ones.
  • A contribution discusses the conservation of angular momentum and how it leads to the formation of an accretion disk, which generates substantial heat and radiation detectable by telescopes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of tidal forces near black holes and the conditions under which x-ray radiation is emitted. There is no consensus on the specifics of how radiation behaves in relation to the event horizon.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the behavior of radiation and the conditions near black holes remain unresolved, particularly regarding the interaction of matter with the event horizon and the characteristics of tidal forces for different sizes of black holes.

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Some astronomers detected flashes of x-ray in the cosmos. They say it can only be possible because matters temperature increases to million degrees to radiate into x-rays, and only objects entering into black hole could radiate x-rays in whole cosmos.
How can you detected x-ray radiation from lump of material disappearing into black hole? I mean how can even radiation can escape from such strong gravity of black hole, even light(radiation) can't escape from it? Or is it the radiation would form from the matters out of the event horizon of the black hole? Can radiation still be formed out of the event horizon too?
 
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pramod_kharel said:
Some astronomers detected flashes of x-ray in the cosmos. They say it can only be possible because matters temperature increases to million degrees to radiate into x-rays, and only objects entering into black hole could radiate x-rays in whole cosmos.
How can you detected x-ray radiation from lump of material disappearing into black hole? I mean how can even radiation can escape from such strong gravity of black hole, even light(radiation) can't escape from it? Or is it the radiation would form from the matters out of the event horizon of the black hole? Can radiation still be formed out of the event horizon too?

Yes, the radiation is emitted before the in falling object crosses the event horizon. Try searching for "black hole accretion disk" to get a sense of just how intense and violent conditions can be even outside the horizon.

(in fact, for an object falling into a black hole, the event horizon itself passes with no great drama. The intense tidal forces you read about are first encountered outside the horizon)
 


Nugatory said:
The intense tidal forces you read about are first encountered outside the horizon)

That's not quite right. It IS right for small black holes but for super-massive black holes tidal forces don't get intense until you are well inside the EH.
 


Hello,

The law of conservation of angular momentum states:

L=total spin+total orbit.

Due to this angular momentum gases falling inside the black hole, which has a very big mass will create a disc type form. In case of such compact object, the heat radiated is huge, causing huge amount of radiation, X-rays which can be detected by telescopes.
 

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