Black Holes & Stars: Quantum Entanglement Possibility?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the possibility of quantum entanglement between black holes and stars, particularly white dwarfs, and the implications of such entanglement on observable phenomena like the "tunnel closing" associated with stellar deaths or explosions. The conversation touches on theoretical concepts and observational evidence related to black holes and stellar interactions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes the idea that black holes might share quantum entanglement with stars, suggesting that the observation of a "tunnel closing" could be linked to the death or explosion of the star.
  • Another participant counters that there is no observed phenomenon described as "tunnel closing," referencing gravitational wave observations of black hole mergers instead.
  • A third participant notes that when a star is captured by a black hole, it is typically torn apart, contributing to an accretion disk rather than forming an entangled state with the black hole.
  • Some participants assert that while black holes form from the collapse of stars, they may still be entangled in principle, though the reasoning behind this claim is questioned.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion features multiple competing views, with no consensus reached on the nature of the relationship between black holes and stars regarding quantum entanglement or the concept of "tunnel closing."

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the definitions and implications of quantum entanglement in the context of black holes and stars, as well as the observational evidence related to these phenomena.

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Okay so disclaimer; I am not a physicist, i have only loosely looked at different examples of general relativity, super string theory, topology as well as some theories on black holes in my spare time, and i had a question that im not sure was asked/answered.
Would it possible that black holes share a quantum entanglement with stars(such as white dwarfs), and the reason we observe the tunnel closing is the star dies out/explodes? I understand that there are different types of black holes and stars, varying in size and properties of mass/spacial occupancy but it was something that had crossed my mind. Hoping for an answer!
 
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Two points:

1) We have never observed anything that I would describe as a "tunnel closing". Perhaps our best observations are with the Gravitational Wave Observatories - where we see the results of a large Black Hole combining with another Black Hole or Neutron star. The result is that they spiral together until a single event horizon is formed around the entire remaining mass.

2) When a star is trapped by a Black Hole, it is generally torn apart with the remnants forming (or joining) an accretion disk around the Black Hole. Much of the material in this accretion disk eventually makes its way down to the event horizon - but a lot of it is ejected in other ways (see the article).

Black Holes can probably be affected by the entanglement of material they have ingested - but I will let someone else field that part.
 
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Antman0115 said:
...the reason we observe the tunnel closing is ...
What is this "tunnel" you speak of?
 
Antman0115 said:
Would it possible that black holes share a quantum entanglement with stars(such as white dwarfs)
Black holes form from the gravitational collapse of sufficiently large stars. They're not entangled with any other stars.
 
PeterDonis said:
Black holes form from the gravitational collapse of sufficiently large stars. They're not entangled with any other stars.
They're entangled in principle.
 

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