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The discussion revolves around the principles of energy conservation and the effects of friction on the speed and velocity of an object in different scenarios involving gravitational potential energy (GPE) and kinetic energy (KE).

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between height, speed, and velocity in various cases of motion, questioning the assumptions made about distances and energy transformations.

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Participants are actively engaging with each other's reasoning, clarifying concepts related to speed and velocity, and discussing the implications of friction on energy loss. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the problem, but no consensus has been reached on the final answers.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the setup of the problem, particularly about the distances involved in the scenarios. The discussion also touches on the definitions of speed and velocity, as well as the effects of friction on energy conservation.

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3. my attempt to solve the question
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Hi
In this picture my attempt to solve the question
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It is given, from conservation of energy principles, when there are no other forces acting besides gravity which do work, that the GPE at the top for all 3 cases is the same, and that therefore the KE at the bottom will also be the same for each case. So for case 1, why did you use the height as (5 + 5)??

Note that KE is a scalar quantity and the v in that equation for KE is the objects speed. It's velocity has direction associated with it.

When you add friction, besides creating heat, what does that say about the speed of the object when it reachs the bottom, as compared to the frictionless case?
 
First of all, thank you so much
For case1 I used the height as (5 + 5), because there are two distances incline and ramps and each one of them has length 5 meters. So what I have done is correct?
About the note, I know the speed is a scalar quantity and the velocity is a vector quantity, but when the direction does not change the speed will be equal to velocity. And I think the direction does not change.
about the speed of the object when it reachs the bottom I think it will be less! And in case1 and 2 will be less than case 3
 
shemo1993 said:
First of all, thank you so much
For case1 I used the height as (5 + 5), because there are two distances incline and ramps and each one of them has length 5 meters. So what I have done is correct?
I don't know what you mean by 'two distances incline and ramps' for case 1. For case 1, the block is just dropped 5 m to the ground, in free fall, like as if you were dropping it from the roof of a 5 m tall building.
About the note, I know the speed is a scalar quantity and the velocity is a vector quantity, but when the direction does not change the speed will be equal to velocity. And I think the direction does not change.
well the magnitude of the velocity is the same as its speed, but at the bottom, in case 1, the velocity direction is down, in case 2 the direction is parallel to the sloped incline, and in case 3 , it is more or less horizontal. So for case 2, the final velocity is 9.8 m/s parallel to the slope, and for case 3 the final velocity is 9.8 m/s more or less in a horizontal direction, and for case 1 , the velocity is ___??___?
about the speed of the object when it reachs the bottom I think it will be less! And in case1 and 2 will be less than case 3
Yes it will be less than the frictionless case...
 
Now I understood the first case
Therefore, the final answers will be as well?

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Yes, the speed is the same at the bottom (9.8 m/s) for all three cases. With friction present, some of the energy 'lost' due to the work done by frictiion shows up as heat, but not all of the lost energy is heat, some shows up as sound energy, or other forms .
 
Thank you very much for help me

Allah bless you

shemo1993
 

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