Bravo to Dan McCauley: War on Brats in Cafes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the appropriateness of children in cafes and restaurants, particularly in response to a cafe owner's initiative to encourage quieter behavior from young patrons. Participants express a range of opinions on parental responsibility, the behavior of children in public spaces, and the expectations of cafe environments.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express support for the cafe owner's sign, arguing that it promotes a more enjoyable atmosphere for all patrons.
  • Others share anecdotes of disruptive children in public spaces, suggesting that parents should take their children to more suitable venues.
  • A few participants emphasize the need for parents to teach their children appropriate behavior in public settings.
  • Some comments reflect a humorous or exaggerated stance on the issue, suggesting extreme measures for managing unruly children.
  • There are mentions of well-behaved children being welcome, but a strong sentiment against those who are uncontrolled.
  • Several participants criticize parents who do not recognize or address their children's disruptive behavior.
  • Some express frustration with the idea that cafes should accommodate children at all, advocating for designated adult-only spaces.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that disruptive behavior from children in cafes is problematic, but there is no consensus on how to address the issue or the appropriateness of children in such environments. Views on parental responsibility and the expectations of cafe owners vary widely.

Contextual Notes

Some comments reflect a lack of clarity on the definitions of appropriate behavior and the types of establishments suitable for children, indicating a need for further exploration of these concepts.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to parents, cafe owners, and individuals concerned about public behavior and social norms regarding children in dining establishments.

What about annoying kids in public places???

  • I'm all for binding and gagging the rugrats so I can enjoy my mocha frappe at Starbucks.

    Votes: 26 76.5%

  • Leave the kids alone. Kids should do whatever they want, when they want.

    Votes: 2 5.9%

  • I could care less.

    Votes: 6 17.6%
  • Total voters
    34
  • #31
Astronuc said:
The loud cell phone converations are sometimes just as irritating.
This is where the "children of all ages" part comes in. :biggrin:

Math Is Hard said:
I agree. This punishment is appropriate for brats of the wurst kind.

And we're still waiting on that groan smiley...
 
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  • #32
franznietzsche said:
Hardly. As kids my brothers, cousins, and I pretty much only ate out at McDonalds. Which is not to say we ate there often, we usually ate at home. But our parents were smart enough to know not to take a half dozen kids under 10 to somewhere nice. I think the only times we ever ate in nice places were religious functions, first communion banquets, a few wedding banquets, etc. And none of us became McChildren. In fact, my grand parents once came to visit and thought I was anorexic. Until we had dinner anyway.
Alas, even that isn't bearable. You still have to be in the same car with them.

Thank God I got a http://www.wimp.com/brats/ .
 
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