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The discussion revolves around a recent article claiming a breakthrough related to the twin prime conjecture in number theory. Participants explore the implications of the article, particularly regarding the nature of prime pairs and their distances apart.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the article does not provide a proof of the twin prime conjecture itself, but rather states that there are infinitely many pairs of primes that can be significantly distant from each other, with one example being 70 million apart.
  • There is mention of the hope to reduce the distance of 70 million to a smaller number, potentially down to 2, although the difficulty of achieving this is uncertain.
  • Several participants express the view that a distance of 70 million feels conceptually similar to infinity, with one participant referencing a professor's comment about the cardinality of the Monster group.
  • Discussion includes the idea that there are different levels of infinity, with references to cardinalities greater than Aleph Null and the powerset of infinite sets.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the article does not prove the twin prime conjecture, but there are multiple competing views regarding the implications of the findings and the nature of infinity. The discussion remains unresolved on how the results relate to the twin prime conjecture and the significance of the distances between prime pairs.

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Participants express uncertainty about the feasibility of reducing the distance between prime pairs and the implications of different cardinalities of infinity. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations of the article's claims.

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From what I understood, this is not a proof of the Twin Prime Conjecture itself. The result states that there are infinitely many pairs of primes, but these primes are not twins, or siblings, or even cousins. They can be 70 million apart. In Russian, such relatives are called "seventh water on a kissel" (don't ask me why). But previously it was not known whether there is any finite number $n$ such that there are infinitely many pairs of primes at most $n$ apart. There is hope of reducing the 70 million number, but it is not clear how hard it would be to reduce it all the way to 2.
 
For me 70 million is still more like infinity.
 
mathmaniac said:
For me 70 million is still more like infinity.

As one of my professors said, in relation to the cardinality of the Monster group, "It's cheating to call that finite."
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
From what I understood, this is not a proof of the Twin Prime Conjecture itself. The result states that there are infinitely many pairs of primes, but these primes are not twins, or siblings, or even cousins. They can be 70 million apart. In Russian, such relatives are called "seventh water on a kissel" (don't ask me why). But previously it was not known whether there is any finite number $n$ such that there are infinitely many pairs of primes at most $n$ apart. There is hope of reducing the 70 million number, but it is not clear how hard it would be to reduce it all the way to 2.

You are right. Although the title of the article says 'First Proof of TPC'

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I think 70 million is same as 2 for analysts.
 
caffeinemachine said:
I think 70 million is same as 2 for analysts.

Agreed :rolleyes:
 
mathmaniac said:
For me 70 million is still more like infinity.

I can assure you that 70 million is still infinitely smaller than infinity.
 
Also, we can assure that the infinite $\aleph_0$ is still infinitely smaller than the infinite $2^{\aleph_0}$. :)
 
Pick any infinite set with any cardinality greater than Aleph Null and call that infinite set S.

The Powerset of S has larger cardinality than S itself and therefore higher level of infinity. Repeat the process ad infinitim (what's going to stop you?) to see that the increasing levels of infinity are infinite.

For any given infinity there is always a higher infinity.

It is amazing what you can accomplish simply by asking your students to sit down.

:)
 

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