C Expected value for the total number of points awarded on any toss of coins

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the expected value for the total number of points awarded based on the outcomes of tossing three coins. It includes aspects of probability theory and combinatorial outcomes related to the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the necessity of using three different coins and the requirement that at least two coins must show the same face.
  • Another participant lists the outcomes and their associated probabilities for scoring points based on the coin tosses.
  • A participant questions the origin of the number 8 in the context of the total outcomes.
  • Another participant explains that with three coins, each having two possibilities (heads or tails), the total number of outcomes is \(2^3=8\).
  • A subsequent post details the specific outcomes of the coin tosses and their corresponding point values.
  • One participant admits to feeling weak in understanding probability and expresses gratitude for the assistance provided.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion shows some participants agreeing on the calculation of outcomes and probabilities, while others express confusion about the problem setup and the reasoning behind certain aspects. No consensus is reached regarding the necessity of using three different coins.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the scoring system and the requirement for at least two coins to show the same face remain unclear. The mathematical steps leading to the expected value calculation are also not fully resolved.

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well not sure why we need 3 different coins other than confusion
also each toss at least 2 coins have to have the same face
frankly not sure how any of these choices work
didn't want to surf online better to stumble thru it here and learn it better

oh.. one nice thing about this new format... don't have to continuely log in
 
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I would begin by listing the outcomes and their probabilities:

0 points: 1/8

3 points: 3/8

6 points: 3/8

9 points: 1/8

Then the expected value is the sum of the products of the points and probabilities associated with each outcome:

$$E[X]=0\cdot\frac{1}{8}+3\cdot\frac{3}{8}+6\cdot\frac{3}{8}+9\cdot\frac{1}{8}=\frac{9+18+9}{8}=\frac{9}{2}$$
 
oh I see
it's basically a series...

ummm where does 8 come from??
 
Each coin has two possibilities, either heads or tails, and since there are 3 coins, the total number of outcomes is \(2^3=8\).
 
oh..
 
Those 2^3= 8 outcomes are
HHH (worth 3(3)= 9 points)
HHT (worth 2(3)= 6 points)
HTH (woth 2(3)= 6 points)
HTT (worth 1(3)= 3 points)
THH (worth 2(3)= 6 points)
THT (worth 1(3)= 3 points)
TTH (worth 1(3)= 3 points)
TTT (worth 0(3)= 0 points)
 
I'm very weak on this probability stuff
So the help was appreciated much
 

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