Calc: area of rectangle under curve

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding the area of a rectangle inscribed under the curve y = e^-2x^2, with specific vertices and conditions. The tasks include evaluating the area at a specific point, determining the maximum area, and calculating the average area over a given interval.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss evaluating A(1) and express uncertainty about the greatest value of A(x), questioning how to approach the calculus involved. There are attempts to derive A(x) and its derivative, with some participants suggesting to factor expressions and clarify notation.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the problem, with some providing insights into the calculus methods needed to find maximum values. There is recognition of the need to clarify the distinction between the area under the curve and the area of the rectangles defined by A(x). Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, particularly regarding the average area calculation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note confusion regarding the vertices of the rectangle and the implications of the graph extending infinitely. There is also a discussion about the average area of rectangles versus the area under the curve, highlighting the need for careful terminology.

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Homework Statement


Let A(x) be the area of the rectangle inscribed under the curve y = e^-2x^2 with vertices at (-x, 0) and (x, 0), x >= 0

a.) find A(1)
b.) what is the greatest value of A(x)? justify your answer
c.) what is the average value of A(x) on the interval 0 <= x <= 2



The Attempt at a Solution



a. Logically i can just plug 1 or -1 into the equation to find its y intercept and then find the area of the rectangle I get A(1) = e^(-2) * 2 or .27 using the first method.

...but I am pretty sure there is a calculus method...here is my attempt...not sure if I am on the right track.

y = e^-2x^2
lny = lne^-2x^2
lny = -2x^2
take derivative
1/y = -4x

b. the graph seems to extend from negative infinity to positive infinity so I'm not seeing a greatest value

c.
 
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rjs123 said:

Homework Statement


Let A(x) be the area of the rectangle inscribed under the curve y = e^-2x^2 with vertices at (=x, 0) and (x, 0), x >= 0
The vertices are a little confusing. Did you mean (-x, 0) for the first one?
rjs123 said:
a.) find A(1)
b.) what is the greatest value of A(x)? justify your answer
c.) what is the average value of A(x) on the interval 0 <= x <= 2



The Attempt at a Solution



a. Logically i can just plug 1 or -1 into the equation to find its y intercept and then find the area of the rectangle I get A(1) = e^(-2) * 2 or .27 using the first method.
This seems fine. Finding A(1) doesn't require calculus.
rjs123 said:
...but I am pretty sure there is a calculus method...here is my attempt...not sure if I am on the right track.

y = e^-2x^2
lny = lne^-2x^2
lny = -2x^2
take derivative
1/y = -4x

b. the graph seems to extend from negative infinity to positive infinity so I'm not seeing a greatest value
The problem isn't asking about the greatest value of y = e-2x2. It's asking about the greatest value of A(x). Find a formula for A(x) and then do the usual thing with finding A'(x) and setting it to zero.
rjs123 said:
c.
 
Mark44 said:
The vertices are a little confusing. Did you mean (-x, 0) for the first one?
This seems fine. Finding A(1) doesn't require calculus.
The problem isn't asking about the greatest value of y = e-2x2. It's asking about the greatest value of A(x). Find a formula for A(x) and then do the usual thing with finding A'(x) and setting it to zero.

ok so for b I've attempted this but I am stuck

<br /> y = e^{-2x^2}<br />

<br /> A = x(e^-2x^2)<br />

<br /> A = xe^-2x^2<br />

<br /> A&#039; = x * -4xe^-2x^2 + 1 * e^-2x^2<br />

<br /> A&#039; = -4x^2*e^-2x^2 + e^-2x^2<br />

<br /> 0 = -4x^2*e^-2x^2 + e^-2x^2<br />
 
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Factor e-2x2 out of the two expressions.
 
rjs123 said:
ok so for b I've attempted this but I am stuck

<br /> y = e^{-2x^2}<br />

<br /> A = xe^{-2x^2}<br />

<br /> A = xe^{-2x^2}<br />

<br /> A&#039; = x * -4xe^{-2x^2} + 1 * e^{-2x^2}<br />

<br /> A&#039; = -4x^2*e^{-2x^2} + e^{-2x^2}<br />

<br /> 0 = -4x^2*e^{-2x^2} + e^{-2x^2}<br />

This is a lot easier to read - thanks!

In your LaTeX, if an exponent is more than 1 character, put braces {} around it. I fixed the above to make them look better.
 
Mark44 said:
This is a lot easier to read - thanks!

In your LaTeX, if an exponent is more than 1 character, put braces {} around it. I fixed the above to make them look better.

<br /> 0 = e^{-2x^2}(-4x^2 + 1)<br />

<br /> 0 = e^{-2x^2}(-2x + 1)(2x + 1)<br />

<br /> x = -1/2, 1/2<br />

width = 1
length =
<br /> y = e^{-2(1/2)^2}<br />
<br /> y = e^{-2(1/4)}<br />
<br /> y = e^{-1/2}<br />

length = .606

A = 1 * .606, A = .606
 
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OK, these are values of x for which A'(x) = 0. Do you get a maximum, minimum, or neither at each of them?
 
Mark44 said:
OK, these are values of x for which A'(x) = 0. Do you get a maximum, minimum, or neither at each of them?

I'm still confused on the answer for b since the area for a rectangle under the graph could be infinite since the graph never touches the x-axis.
 
For each value of x, you get a value A(x), which is the area of one rectangle. As x gets larger, the rectangles get wider, but they also get shorter, which also affects their area.
 
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Mark44 said:
For each value of x, you get a value A(x), which is the area of one rectangle. As x gets larger, the rectangles get wider, but they also get shorter, which also affects their area.

I used some numbers to justify this...and you are right...if i pick anything greater than or less than 1/2 for x...the area gets exponentially smaller.

Almost done...for c.)... what is the average value of A(x) on the interval 0 <= x <= 2...

should i just use average value theorem...basically get the area when x = 2...divide that by 2?
 
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Be careful when you say area, since you're not really dealing with the area under the curve, but instead the average area of the rectangles. Remember that A(x) gives you the area of a rectangle whose width is 2x and whose height is e-2x2, for x between 0 and 2.
 
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Mark44 said:
Be careful when you say area, since you're not really dealing with the area under the curve, but instead the average area of the rectangles. Remember that A(x) gives you the area of a rectangle whose width is 2x and whose height is e-2x2, for x between 0 and 2.


when 0<=x<=2

b = 2 a = 0

A(b) - A(a)/ b - a

.00134 - 0/ 2 = .006709
This is basically the average area of the rectangle when x is between 0 and 2 correct?
 
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Mark44 said:
Be careful when you say area, since you're not really dealing with the area under the curve, but instead the average area of the rectangles. Remember that A(x) gives you the area of a rectangle whose width is 2x and whose height is e-2x2, for x between 0 and 2.

any help on setting this up properly...
 

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