Calculate Savings with VFD on MUA Units

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The discussion revolves around calculating energy savings when using a Variable Frequency Drive (VFD) for air handling units, specifically focusing on airflow and temperature differences. Participants explore equations and examples related to heating costs and energy efficiency without seeking a definitive answer.

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  • One participant seeks to calculate savings in airflow and temperature differences when using a VFD, mentioning the need for equations and examples related to heating costs.
  • Another participant provides a detailed calculation based on assumptions about airflow, temperature change, and heating costs, arriving at a daily cost for heating air with a specific fan capacity.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of precise weather data to determine actual temperature differences on an hourly basis for accurate calculations.
  • One participant acknowledges the need to consider additional factors such as humidity, heating source efficiency, building envelope, and solar heat for more specific calculations.

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Participants generally agree on the basic calculations and factors involved, but there is no consensus on the precision of the calculations or the additional factors that should be considered for accuracy.

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Participants mention assumptions regarding efficiency and external conditions, indicating that the calculations may depend on specific variables such as weather data and building characteristics.

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Individuals interested in energy efficiency, HVAC systems, or those looking to understand the impact of VFDs on heating costs may find this discussion relevant.

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Im am trying to figureout how to calculate savings using a VFD -
Variable Frequincy(Speed) Drive

Direct energy savings easy

I am trying to Calculate the savings in AIR FLOW/+/Air temp-differerance

Not exausting 75'F air outside at say 10,000 CFM - And not bringing in 30'F Air in the winter at the same CFM's

I am not looking for a direct answer I am am looking for equations/examples? such as. Cost to heat 1 CF of Air per Degree F , Without going into too much detail I can use some assumptions (efficency of heating sorce etc.)
 
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What are the ?? for

what don't you understand ?
 
I figured it all out :smile:


Basically assume 10,000 CFM Fan

Values
Total CFM 10,000

Tatal CF - Day 14,400,000

1 CF air = 0.075 lbs 1,080,000

To heat 1 lbs air = 0.24
BTU's per Degree ferinhight A) 259,200

Delta T (Temp Change) B) 50

BTU's Per day A*B 12,960,000

1000 BTU = 1 Cubic foot gas 12,960

1 cubic metre = 0.0283 cubic foot 366.77

Cost Per cubic metre of gas $0.50

Air cost per day for
10,000 CFM fan Using Gas $183.38


BOOH YEAH
 
That looks pretty good, yeah. The difficulty is in getting more precise - you need weather data to know what the actual delta-T is on an hourly basis. I use a piece of software called Binmaker: http://www.interenergysoftware.com/binM/pro/BMPAbout.htm
 
Luckily your calculations make more sense than your grammar. Yes though, your calcs look decent.
 
Well I am sorry MINGER that my grammar is not up to par with yours :frown: - Actually I could care less :-p

But thank you for the reply's

And if I wanted to be really specific I am pritty sure I would also need to take into account the moisture/humidity , the efficiency of the heating sorce , Envelope of the building , Solar heat ...

Thanks for that info on that BIN program all take a look at it.
 
That was much better, good luck!
 

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