Calculate Size of Radius for Muonic Atom in Lithium-7

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The discussion revolves around calculating the size of the radius for a muonic atom in lithium-7, specifically focusing on the ground state radius, binding energy, and series limits of wavelengths. The subject area includes atomic physics and quantum mechanics, particularly the Bohr model adapted for muons.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the Bohr radius formula, adjusting for the muon's mass and the atomic number of lithium. They express uncertainty about their calculations, particularly regarding the reduced mass.
  • Some participants question the assumptions about the nucleus's mass and the stability of the lithium isotope being considered.
  • Others suggest verifying the reduced mass calculation and the use of appropriate constants.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing calculations and questioning each other's assumptions. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the reduced mass and its impact on the radius calculation. While some guidance has been offered, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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The discussion includes constraints related to online homework submissions and the pressure of limited attempts to answer correctly. Participants are also navigating the complexities of isotopic masses and their relevance to the calculations.

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size of radius -- HELP

Hi

I'm stuck on a problem that I've been working on for a very long time and I was hoping someone could help. The problem reads as follows:

A muonic atom consists of a muon (m = 106 MeV/c2) in place of an electron. For the muon in a doubly ionized lithium-7 ion, calculate the following quantities.
a) the smallest radius in the ground state
(b) the binding energy of the muon in the ground state
(c) the series limit of the wavelength for the first three series
nm (first series)
nm (second series)
nm (third series)

I know I need to use the equation:

4*pi*epsilon*h-bar^{2} / me^{2}

Because the atom is lithium, I know I have to include Z (Z=3) next to the e^{2}. I derived the formula a billion times - I don't know what I'm doing wrong!
I also know that I need to find the reduced mass of a muon in lithium. I think I did this right.

I've been trying to work this out for an obscene amount of time. I feel like I'm overlooking something very basic. Can anyone help me please?
 
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Ok, that's the Bohr radius. And yes, you should change one of the e's to Ze and use the reduced mass. So what makes you think you are doing something wrong?
 
its online homework. every time i put my answer in, its wrong. i don't have very many chances left.

maybe I'm calculating the reduced mass wrong?

the equation is: m*M/(m+M)

for m I'm using the mass of the muon, 106MeV.
for M I'm using the mass of the nucleus, which is 3 times the mass of a proton, because I'm dealing with lithium. Mass of a proton is 938 Mev. 3 times that is 2814 Mev. I also tried it with kg-masses and I still get a wrong answer.
It's been PAST TIME for me to move on, but I need this one to figure out the rest. :bugeye:
 
lol, i also tried it using the reduced mass of one muon and one proton. i still don't get the right answer.
 
Three protons is not a stable lithium nucleus. The most common isotope has mass 7.
 
still not getting it right.

reduced mass of muon = m * 7M / (m + 7M) ?
 
Using mass of Li from a periodic table of 6.941 amu (I don't have a list of isotope masses). I get 1.85*10^(-28) kg for the reduced mass. Just a couple percent below the muon mass.
 
Thank You! You're The Best! :)
 
touley said:
Thank You! You're The Best! :)

So what were you doing wrong?
 
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i kept getting 1.82 * 10^-28 for my reduced mass and it gave me a slightly larger radius. i guess it wasn't close enough for 'em. thanks again :-D
 

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