Calculating Average Drag Through Plasticene

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average drag experienced by a bullet traveling through plasticine. The original poster describes an experiment involving a bullet shot through multiple layers of plasticine and seeks to understand how to determine the distance the bullet travels before stopping, given specific parameters such as drag force, bullet mass, and initial velocity.

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  • Participants discuss the concept of drag as a retarding force and its relationship to kinetic energy. Questions arise regarding the applicability of the work-kinetic energy theorem and the correct formulation of equations to analyze the problem.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relevant equations and concepts, with some participants providing clarifications on the relationship between work done by drag and changes in kinetic energy. The discussion includes considerations of the signs in the equations and the implications of the bullet coming to a stop.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of applying theoretical concepts to a practical scenario, with some uncertainty about the correct formulas and their interpretation. The original poster expresses a desire for guidance on the calculations involved.

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Average drag??

Hi' this is my first post here:rolleyes: , What is average drag:confused: :rolleyes: (underlined bit) eg,
I shot a bullet thru three pieces of plasticene(15cm thickness each) each placed 5 cm apart and the average drag of the plasticene is 5000 N the bullet has a mass of 200g was traveling at 100m/s how far will the bullet go through the plasticane ?? :shy: I'd like to know how to work that out as well :wink: :cool:
thanks a lot guys:wink::cool:
 
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Drag is the average retarding force that an object (in this case the bullet) experiences as it moves through the medium (plasticine). The plasticine therefore generates friction that slows the bullet down as it moves through it. The drag force will do work on the bullet causing a reduction of its kinetic energy. If we ignore other forces acting on the bullet we can say that:
the work done on the bullet by the drag force acting on it = the change in the kinetic energy of the bullet
using the work-kinetic energy theorem.
 
Oh:bugeye: , I see now, thanks a lot, can I use this formula to solve this problem??
E2 = E1 + W21 ??
0 = 1/2 MV2 + f.S ??

I don't know whether its a right formula or not please correct if I'm wrong:redface: :frown:
thanks again!:cool:
 
Yes, your formula can be rewritten as
[tex]EK_{final}-EK_{initial}=W_{drag}[/tex]
where [itex]EK[/itex] is the kinetic energy of the bullet and [itex]W_{drag}[/itex] is the work done by the drag force on the bullet. That is the friction on the bullet is removing kinetic energy from the bullet as it moves through the plasticene. The above equation reduces to
[tex]-EK_{initial}=W_{drag}[/tex]
since the final kinetic energy of the bullet is zero - it came to a stop - as you showed in your equation above. What to do about the negative sign??!

Well, the work done by the drag on the bullet is negative!
 
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