Calculating Eigenstates and Eigenvalues of a 2D Quantum Rotor with Perturbation

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The discussion revolves around calculating the eigenstates and eigenvalues of a two-dimensional quantum rotor under the influence of a perturbation along the x direction. Participants explore the application of perturbation theory, specifically focusing on the first-order corrections to the eigenstates and eigenvalues.

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  • Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the unperturbed Schrödinger equation and the form of the perturbation, seeking assistance with the calculations involved.
  • Another participant suggests starting with the unperturbed eigenvalues and eigenfunctions, which leads to a clarification of the eigenstates and their corresponding spectrum.
  • There is a correction regarding the range of the quantum number m, with a participant noting that states with both positive and negative m are degenerate.
  • A participant introduces the concept of degenerate perturbation theory, indicating the need to diagonalize the perturbation in the degenerate subspace.
  • One participant calculates matrix elements of the perturbation and finds them to be zero, expressing doubt about needing to perform calculations at the second order.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to apply degenerate perturbation theory, but there is disagreement regarding the necessity of second-order calculations, as one participant doubts their relevance based on the computed matrix elements.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in the calculations, such as the assumptions made about the matrix elements and the implications of degeneracy in the eigenstates.

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Hello!

I need help with this typical quantum problem:

I have a quantum rotor in 2 dimensions. And a perturbation along the x direction:

Here's the unperturbed Sch equation:

[tex]-\frac{\hbar^{2}}{2M}\frac{\partial^{2}}{\partial \phi^{2}}\psi(\phi)=E\psi(\phi)[/tex]

And here's the perturbation

[tex]H_{1}=-\epsilon \cos(\phi)[/tex]

The text asks me about the eigenstates and their eigenvalues, I suppose it means at the first perturbative order.

I get involved into integrals that seems to be too complicated (I got it from a phd test in which a single exercise it's supposed not to take much time in calculations).

Thank you very much

P3rry
 
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Start by writing down the unperturbed eigenvalues and eigenfunctions.
 
The unperturbed eigenstates are:
[tex]\psi_{m}(\phi)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi}}\mathrm{e}^{\mathrm{i}m\phi}[/tex]

where [tex]m=0,1 \ldots[/tex]
and the spectrum is
[tex]E_{m}=-\frac{\hbar^{2}m^{2}}{2M}[/tex]

Now, as I said, I got problems in calculating the perturbed spectrum...
 
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p3rry said:
where [tex]m=0,1 \ldots[/tex]
You're missing some of the states ...
 
Sorry
where [tex]m=0,\pm1,\pm2 \ldots[/tex]
 
OK, so states with positive m and negative m are degenerate. So you need to use degenerate perturbation theory, which means that you have to "diagonalize the perturbation in the degenerate subspace". Do you know how to do that?
 
Ok, but I get 0 for every matrix element:

[tex]\left\langle m |H_{1}|m\right\rangle = \frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{0}^{2\pi}\mathrm{d}\phi\mathrm{e}^{-im\phi}(-\epsilon \cos (\phi))\mathrm{e}^{im\phi}=0[/tex]
and the off diagonal elements are equally 0
[tex]\left\langle m |H_{1}|-m\right\rangle = \frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{0}^{2\pi}\mathrm{d}\phi\mathrm{e}^{-im\phi}(-\epsilon \cos (\phi))\mathrm{e}^{-im\phi}=-\frac{\epsilon}{4\pi}\left\{\int_{0}^{2\pi}\mathrm{d}\phi\mathrm{e}^{-i(2m-1)\phi}+\int_{0}^{2\pi}\mathrm{d}\phi\mathrm{e}^{-i(2m+1)\phi}\right\{=0[/tex]
Is that right?
I doubt I have to perform the calculation at the second order. What do you think?
 
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