Calculating how long ago light was emitted from a star?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time it takes for light emitted from a star to reach Earth, specifically focusing on a star located 2.6 parsecs away. Participants explore the relationship between light-years and years, and the implications of distance and time in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that since 1 parsec is approximately 3.3 light-years, a distance of 2.6 parsecs translates to about 8.6 light-years, leading to the conclusion that it takes 8.6 years for light from that star to reach Earth.
  • Another participant clarifies that a light-year is a measure of distance, and thus it takes 8.6 years for light from a star 8.6 light-years away to reach us.
  • There is a contention regarding the equivalence of time and distance, with one participant asserting that equating them is nonsensical, emphasizing that time and distance must be treated with their respective units.
  • Another participant provides an analogy involving driving distances and speeds to illustrate the difference between distance and time, reinforcing that light travels at a speed of 1 light-year per year.
  • Further discussion introduces the concept that for very distant stars, the expansion of the universe must be considered, as the distance light travels increases during its transit time, complicating the calculation of light's age.
  • A later reply questions whether the discussion about light travel time and distance relates to inflation theory and the horizon problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic calculation for nearby stars, but there is disagreement regarding the implications of light travel over very large distances and the effects of cosmic expansion. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the complexities introduced by these factors.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the potential misunderstanding of the relationship between distance and time, as well as the need for further clarification on how cosmic expansion affects light travel time for distant stars.

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hey folks,

i was wondering if anyone could give me help on a wee problem i have.

using a distance of a star of 2.6pc from earth, how would one calculate the time it took for light to be seen on Earth today...
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my books have rounded that 1pc = 3.3 ly
so i would take 2.6 pc to be the same as = 8.6 ly

so i believe that it would have take 8.6 lightyears for the light to reach Earth today,

how would this be converted into 'years' from light years or am i missing something?

any help would be excellent!
ta!

crawleen
 
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A light-year is a measure of distance. It is the distance that light travels in one year. Thus it take 8.6 years for light from a star 8.6 light-years away to reach us.
 
thanks for replying...

so 1 lightyear = 1year

∴ 8.6 lightyears = 8.6 years

i thought i was missing some further calculations there and maybe i was just over complicating the question?

crawleen!
 
crawleen said:
thanks for replying...

so 1 lightyear = 1year

∴ 8.6 lightyears = 8.6 years

i thought i was missing some further calculations there and maybe i was just over complicating the question?

crawleen!

NO! You cannot equate a time and a distance! In physics, the two sides of an equation must have the same dimensions. Time = distance is just as nonsensical as saying temperature = force or similar.

The correct statement is that it takes light a TIME of 8.6 years to travel a DISTANCE of 8.6 light years.
 
could you give me advice as to how i would go about calculating the time in years for light seen in Earth today emitted by a star whose distance is 2.6 parasecs away?

i'm a bit lost...

cheers!
 
crawleen said:
could you give me advice as to how i would go about calculating the time in years for light seen in Earth today emitted by a star whose distance is 2.6 parasecs away?

i'm a bit lost...

cheers!

What cepheid was referring was the mixing of units of distance and unit of time.

For example if two towns are 150 miles apart and you drive from one to the other at 50 mph, it will take you 30 hrs to make the trip. But you would not say that

150 miles = 3 hrs.

Because miles are units of distance and hrs are units of time, thus they cannot be directly equated to each other.

Instead, you would say that

150 mile/50 mph =3 hrs.

With your problem, light-years is the distance and years is the time. The speed is measured in light-years per year. Light travels at a speed of 1 light-year per year.

So you would say that

8.6 light-years/ 1 Light-year per year = 8.6 years.
 
thank you for your help, much appreciated!
 
Fo nearby stars all that has been posted is fine...the ageof the light is about the time of travel time for the light.

But for very great distances we must also take into account that as the light travels to get here, the distance it travels increases during transit time. Light gets further delayed. For example light at the most distant points in the universe is about 45 blyr away now, but since it was emitted 13.7 byr ago the universe has expanded by factor of 1090, so at the time of emission the surface of last scattering was only 45blr/1090 = z or about 41mly away!
 
Naty1 said:
Fo nearby stars all that has been posted is fine...the ageof the light is about the time of travel time for the light.

But for very great distances we must also take into account that as the light travels to get here, the distance it travels increases during transit time. Light gets further delayed. For example light at the most distant points in the universe is about 45 blyr away now, but since it was emitted 13.7 byr ago the universe has expanded by factor of 1090, so at the time of emission the surface of last scattering was only 45blr/1090 = z or about 41mly away!

^Are you referring to the inflation theory due to horizon problem ?
 

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