Calculating Mean of Group A & B: 36?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mean age of two groups, A and B, with distinct average ages. Group A consists of older individuals with a mean age of 67, while Group B comprises children with a mean age of 5. The participants explore how to determine the new mean age when these groups are combined, particularly considering the sizes of the groups.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the initial calculation of the mean assuming equal group sizes, then question how the mean would change if the groups were of different sizes. They introduce the concept of weighting in averages and relate it to other contexts, such as grading.

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The conversation has evolved to include various interpretations of calculating the mean based on group sizes. Some participants have provided examples and analogies to clarify the concept of weighted averages, while others have raised questions about the implications of differing group sizes on the final mean.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions regarding group sizes and the implications for calculating the mean. Some participants also reference unrelated concepts, such as atomic weights and isotopes, which may divert from the primary focus of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


I realize this is probably an obvious question, but if there are two groups, say group A and group B, where group A was full of old people, and group B full of children.
The mean age was 67 for group A
and the mean age was 5 for group B.
If these two groups joined together to make one big group, what is the new mean?

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is it just ( 67 + 5 ) / 2
so it would be 36?
 
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yes assuming groups A and B are the same size.
 
Oh i see, so what happens if they are different sizes?

say A is 4 ad B is 5.
 
well then that is what is called different weighting. For example, take your grades. if you had two tests both worth 50% of your mark. They are weighted the same. If you get 70% on one and 80% on the other, your average will be (70+80)/2.

however if one is worth 25% and one is worth 75%, and you got the same marks respectively, your final mark would be 0.25(70) + 0.75(80)
 
and if you don't see the mathematic pattern; (70+80)/2 is exactly the same as 0.5(70)+0.5(80)
 
ah brilliant, I never thought of it like that!
Thankyou
 
Yes, everything is simple once you understand it. This same concept is applied on the periodic table. I don't know how well you know chemistry, but you must know that each different element has an atomic weight. You also might know of isotopes. Carbon is the atomic number 12 on the periodic table which means that it has 12 protons. But there are also isotopes of carbon such as carbon 13(which has 13 protons). So from the samples scientists see that 3% of the chunk of carbon is carbon 13, and 90% is carbon 12, and 7% is carbon 11. Then the weight that shows up on your periodic table is as follows:

0.03(weight of carbon 13) + 0.90(weight of carbon 12) + 0.07(weight of carbon 11)
 
dacruick said:
Yes, everything is simple once you understand it. This same concept is applied on the periodic table. I don't know how well you know chemistry, but you must know that each different element has an atomic weight. You also might know of isotopes. Carbon is the atomic number 12 on the periodic table which means that it has 12 protons. But there are also isotopes of carbon such as carbon 13(which has 13 protons). So from the samples scientists see that 3% of the chunk of carbon is carbon 13, and 90% is carbon 12, and 7% is carbon 11. Then the weight that shows up on your periodic table is as follows:

0.03(weight of carbon 13) + 0.90(weight of carbon 12) + 0.07(weight of carbon 11)
All isotopes of carbon have 6 protons. You clearly do not understand the periodic table.
 
Dickfore said:
All isotopes of carbon have 6 protons. You clearly do not understand the periodic table.

haha i clearly meant 13 protons and neutrons. but who cares this is a physics forum. tehre was no issue insofar as the concept explained. what are you being a dickfor?
 
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Is it only me, who saw the kinda joke..? "What are you being a dick for, Dickfore?"
 

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