Calculating Probability of First Toss Being Tail in 3 Coin Tosses

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The probability that the first toss of a coin is a tail, given that the coin is tossed three times and lands heads exactly twice, is calculated to be 1/3. This conclusion is derived from the total possible outcomes of three coin tosses, which are eight in number: HHH, HHT, HTH, HTT, THH, THT, TTH, and TTT. Among these outcomes, four result in exactly two heads (HHT, HTH, THH), and of these, two outcomes have heads first. Therefore, the probability of the first toss being a tail is confirmed as 1/3.

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Qst A).

A coin is tossed 3 times and you note that the coin lands heads exactly twice. What is the probability that the first toss was the tail?


I know how to do it logically but not with all the notation.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks
 
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That trick didn't work when you posted this in "homework"- it won't work here!
 


It looks like the answer should be 1/3, since there is nothing to favor anyone of the three tosses over any other.
 


If the problem had said "what is the probability the first coin was a tail" would you also answer "1/3"? Since "heads" or "tails" is all there can be, what does the remaining "1/3" probability represent?

tictac123, since you say you were able to do this "logically", what answer did you get?
 


HallsofIvy said:
If the problem had said "what is the probability the first coin was a tail" would you also answer "1/3"? Since "heads" or "tails" is all there can be, what does the remaining "1/3" probability represent?

tictac123, since you say you were able to do this "logically", what answer did you get?
Since the condition is that 2 tosses came up heads, the probability that the first toss was heads is 2/3.
 


There are 8 possible outcomes for three coins, and you can list them:
HHH
HHT
HTH
HTT
THH
THT
TTH
TTT
Of those, exactly 4 have two "H"s, HHT, HTH, and THH. Of those 3, 2 have "H" first.

I would still like to know what tictac123 means by "I know how to do it logically but not with all the notation."
 


A solution exists?
 


HallsofIvy said:
There are 8 possible outcomes for three coins, and you can list them:
HHH
HHT
HTH
HTT
THH
THT
TTH
TTT
Of those, exactly 4 have two "H"s, HHT, HTH, and THH. Of those 3, 2 have "H" first.

I would still like to know what tictac123 means by "I know how to do it logically but not with all the notation."

exactly "3" have two heads
 


regor60 said:
exactly "3" have two heads

No 4 have 2 heads, HHH, HTH, HHT, THH. Out of them 3 have exactly 2 heads
 
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It's 1/3. You can even use Bayes' sentence, but it might be overkill in this case since HallsofIvy's list says it all (but it's a good exercise to double-check it using Bayes' sentence).
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Of those, exactly 4 have two "H"s, HHT, HTH, and THH. Of those 3, 2 have "H" first


NoMoreExams said:
No 4 have 2 heads, HHH, HTH, HHT, THH. Out of them 3 have exactly 2 heads

Who are you quibbling with, him or me ? He cites three as evidence of four. Obviously the issue is whether the intention was exactly two heads or two or more heads, but I'm just referring to his statement
 
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regor60 said:
Who are you quibbling with, him or me ? He cites three as evidence of four. Obviously the issue is whether the intention was exactly two heads or two or more heads, but I'm just referring to his statement

Probably you since to me "exactly 3 have 2 heads" doesn't mean exactly 2 heads since you put "exactly" before the 3.
 

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