Calculating Rotational Inertia: Two Masses and Two Rods

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The discussion revolves around calculating the rotational inertia of a system consisting of two particles and two rods, focusing on their arrangement and contributions to the overall inertia about a rotation axis.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the formula for rotational inertia, questioning the inclusion of the rods' inertia and the arrangement of the masses. There is a discussion on the correct application of the inertia formulas for both the particles and the rods.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the calculations, particularly regarding the inertia of the rods. There is an acknowledgment of the arrangement of the rods and masses, and while some calculations appear to be validated, the discussion remains open to further clarification.

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Participants are considering the arrangement of the masses and rods in relation to the rotation axis, which may influence the calculations. There is an emphasis on ensuring all components are accounted for in the total inertia.

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Two particles, each with mass m, are fastened to each other and to a rotation axis by two rods, each with length L and mass M. The combination rotates around the rotation axis with angular velocity ω. Obtain an algebraic expression for the rotational inertia of the combination about the axis.

I = m1r1^2 + m2r2^2
I = ML^2 + M(2L)^2
I = 5ML^2

where am I going wrong? or am I not taking some factors into consideration?

thanks
 
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this seems like it should be an easy problem but it really has me stumped

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You forgot to include the rotational inertia of the rods.
 
so inertia of the particles is found with:
I = m1r1^2 + m2r2^2
I = mL^2 + m(2L)^2
I = 5mL^2

so inertia of the rods:
I = (1/3)(2M)(2L)^2
I = (8/3)ML^2

total inertial = 5mL^2 + (8/3)ML^2

thanks
 
Looks good to me. (Assuming the rods and masses are arranged in a straight line perpendicular to the axis.)
 
they are

thanks again for your help
much appreciated
 

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