Calculating Speed & Height of a Spring-Released Ball

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a vertical spring and a ball released from a compressed position. The subject area includes concepts of energy conservation, specifically relating to spring potential energy and gravitational potential energy.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply a formula relating spring constant and velocity but questions the validity of their result. Some participants discuss the derivation of the formula and the inclusion of gravitational potential energy in the analysis.

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Participants are exploring different equations and concepts, including the relationship between spring potential energy and kinetic energy. There is a suggestion to incorporate gravitational potential energy into the problem, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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There is mention of ignoring gravitational potential energy in the initial approach, which some participants question. The original poster is also uncertain about the assumptions made regarding mass and gravitational effects.

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A vertical spring (ignore its mass), whose spring stiffness constant is 900 N/m, is attached to a table and is compressed down 0.110 m.
(a) What upward speed can it give to a 0.300 kg ball when released?
-----------m/s
(b) How high above its original position (spring compressed) will the ball fly?
------m


Now if I am following my lecture notes correctly for part a)
I am using the equation is that V^2=KX^2
-------
mass of ball
so when we out it all out it should be v^2=900n/m(-.110m)^2
-----------------
.300 kg

-------------------------->v=6.02 m/s but that answer is wron apparently. I don't know where I am going wrong.
 
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I wouldn't mind seeing the derivation for this formula, do you have it?
chazgurl4life said:
V^2=KX^2
 
the original equation is
.5mass1v^2+ .5kx^2=1/2mass2v^2+ .5kx^2
==>0+1/2mv^2=1/2Kx^2 +0
===>v^2=kx^2/mass
 
chazgurl4life said:
the original equation is
.5mass1v^2+ .5kx^2=1/2mass2v^2+ .5kx^2
==>0+1/2mv^2=1/2Kx^2 +0
===>v^2=kx^2/mass

That look's better, however, you are still ignoring gravitational potential. Are you happy assuming the GPE is negligable?
 
so how do i intergrate that with this problem?
 
What is the equation for GPE?
 
the equation that i was taught was that U=MGH
 
well there you go, just add this in like so;

\frac{1}{2}kx^2 = \frac{1}{2}mv^2 + mgh

However, if you haven't incorperated GPE in this type of porblem before, I would ask you tutor before doing so. :smile:
 
ok so since we are ignoring mass the:


.5(900N/M)(.110^2)=.5(v^2) +(h)(9.8)
 

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