Calculating the Stern Gerlach Angle in Magnetic Fields

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angle of electron splitting when passing through a non-uniform magnetic field, specifically in the context of the Stern-Gerlach experiment. Participants explore the dependencies of this angle on various factors, including magnetic quantum numbers and the intensity of the magnetic field.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the angle of electron split remains constant regardless of the intensity of the magnetic field.
  • Another participant notes that the magnitude of the split depends on the specifics of the apparatus and the incoming beam.
  • There is a query about the dependence of the angle on the magnetic quantum number, with acknowledgment that it does depend on the spin quantum number.
  • A participant discusses the simplifications made when considering atoms like silver, which have specific quantum properties, and presents a formula for estimating the angular distance between the spots on the detecting screen.
  • The formula presented is noted to be approximate and applicable under certain conditions, specifically when the product of the magnetic moment and the magnetic field is much less than the incident energy of the atom.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the constancy of the angle with varying magnetic field intensities and the role of quantum numbers, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the conditions under which the approximations hold, such as the relationship between the magnetic moment and the energy of the atoms, which remain unresolved.

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How can you calculate the angle of the split of the electrons after passing it thorugh a non uniform magnetic field?

I know how to calculate it by elementary means using the magnitude of S and Sz and doing trig. But is that angle always the same no matter what intensity magnetic field its passed through?
 
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pivoxa15 said:
How can you calculate the angle of the split of the electrons after passing it thorugh a non uniform magnetic field?

the actual magnitude of the "split" depends on the details of the apparatus and incoming beam.
 
Does it depend on the magnetic quantum number by any chance? It definitely depends on the spin quantum number.
 
pivoxa15 said:
Does it depend on the magnetic quantum number by any chance? It definitely depends on the spin quantum number.

Yeah, but often one considers atoms that have [tex]\ell=0[/tex], for example Ag atoms (as described in section 1.1 of Sakurai "Modern Quantum Mechanics"), because this type of atom makes for simpler examples.

Silver can be thought of as having a full d-band and so there is only one "valence" electron in the 5s state. Thus the total orbital angular momentum is zero, but the total spin angular momentum is \hbar/2 (and, of course, the total angular momentum is \hbar/2) and we consider the energy perturbation to be:

[tex] \Delta H \approx \mu_{\textrm{Bohr}}B_0 \sigma_z[/tex]

where [tex]\mu_{\textrm{Bohr}}[/tex] is the Bohr Magneton and B_0 is the external field in the z-direction and \sigma_z is the Pauli matrix. So the atoms shooting out of an "oven" into the apparatus feel a force (only in the region where B_0 is changing--the "fringing" part) due to the changing B_0 field of either plus or minus
[tex] \mu_{\textrm{Bohr}} \frac{d B_0}{dz}[/tex]
since the spin is quantized. And thus there appear two "spots" on the detecting screen.

I believe that you can figure out the approximate angular distance between the spots using
[tex] 2\theta \approx 2\frac{\delta p}{p} = 2\frac{\int F dt}{p} \approx 2\frac{B_0\mu_{\textrm{Bohr}}/v}{mv}<br /> =\frac{B_0 \mu_{\textrm{Bohr}}}{E_0}[/tex]
where E is the incident energy of the atom. The above is quite approximate indeed and should only hold for \mu B_0 << E_0.
 
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