Calculating Transfer Function of a Curve: A Beginner's Guide

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The discussion revolves around calculating the transfer function of a curve, specifically from time response and frequency response. It touches on concepts related to system identification and the application of transfer functions in various fields such as signal processing and control theory.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about methods to calculate the transfer function from time and frequency responses.
  • Another participant suggests that the inquiry relates to system identification and provides a link to a Wikipedia article on the topic.
  • A different participant shares additional resources, including another Wikipedia article on transfer functions, and discusses the relevance of linear time-invariant (LTI) systems in this context.
  • There is a mention of the distinction between linear and non-linear systems, noting that many real systems can be approximated as LTI under certain conditions.
  • Questions are raised about familiarity with LTI systems and transforms such as Laplace and Fourier transforms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relevance of system identification and LTI systems to the topic, but there is no consensus on specific methods for calculating transfer functions or the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the potential complexity of non-linear systems and the assumptions made when applying LTI theory. The discussion does not resolve how to handle these complexities in practical calculations.

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How can i calculate transfer function of curve? for example from time response of a curve.

or transfer function of ferquency response .
 
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It sounds that you are asking about something we call system identification.

One way to get started is this article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_identification

After that, check the references of the article. A google search on "system identification" "time domain" also returns a number of useful web pages and video tutorials.

After studying, if you have more specific questions, post again.
 
And here is another good article at Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_function
Linear time-invariant systems
Transfer functions are commonly used in the analysis of systems such as single-input single-output filters, typically within the fields of signal processing, communication theory, and control theory. The term is often used exclusively to refer to linear time-invariant (LTI) systems, as covered in this article. Most real systems have non-linear input/output characteristics, but many systems, when operated within nominal parameters (not "over-driven") have behavior that is close enough to linear that LTI system theory is an acceptable representation of the input/output behavior.

The descriptions below are given in terms of a complex variable, s = σ + j ⋅ ω {\displaystyle s=\sigma +j\cdot \omega }
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, which bears a brief explanation. In many applications, it is sufficient to define σ = 0 {\displaystyle \sigma =0}
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(and s = j ⋅ ω {\displaystyle s=j\cdot \omega }
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), which reduces the Laplace transforms with complex arguments to Fourier transforms with real argument ω. The applications where this is common are ones where there is interest only in the steady-state response of an LTI system, not the fleeting turn-on and turn-off behaviors or stability issues. That is usually the case for signal processing and communication theory.
Are you familiar with LTI systems, and transforms (like Laplace and Fourier transforms)?
 
anorlunda said:
It sounds that you are asking about something we call system identification.

One way to get started is this article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_identification

After that, check the references of the article. A google search on "system identification" "time domain" also returns a number of useful web pages and video tutorials.

After studying, if you have more specific questions, post again.
Thank you
 

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