Calculating Turn Time for a Banked Airplane

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time it takes for a banked airplane to complete a 360-degree turn. The problem involves concepts from physics, particularly dynamics and circular motion, as it considers forces acting on the airplane, including lift and gravity, while it maneuvers in a circular path.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the radius of the turn and the circumference of the circle, as well as the airplane's speed. There are attempts to connect these elements to find the time for the turn.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using the circumference and speed to find the time for the turn. There is an ongoing verification of calculations related to the circumference, and multiple values have been suggested, indicating a collaborative exploration of the problem.

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Participants are working with specific values for the airplane's speed and radius of the turn, but there are discrepancies in the calculated circumference, which may affect the final outcome. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the approach to take.

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Homework Statement


A plane with mass of 1090 kg is flying straight and level at an altitude of 1100 meters & a constant velocity of 200 kg/hr (55.55m/sec). Assuming that the acceleration due to gravity is 10 m/sec^2, the force on the plane due to gravity is 10900 Newtons. Since the plane is in level flight, the net force in the y direction is 0 & the lifting force provided by the wings equals the weight of the plane. The piolot now banks the wings at a 7.5 degree angle w/ respect to the vertical in order to make a turn. Part of the lifting force of the wings is now used to make the plane turn in a circle & there's less lift to counteract the force of gravity.

How long will it take the plane to make one turn of 360 degrees at a velocity of 200 km/hr (55.55 m/sec)??

Homework Equations


Vf=Vo+aT
S=Vo(T)+1/2(a)(T)^2
s=theta(r)
Time=Distance/radius
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The Attempt at a Solution


NO CLUE! HELP!

All I know is that the value that the lift should be increased so that the plane doesn't decend is 10994 Newtons and that the radius of the circle that the plane will fly w/o loosing altitude w/ constant velocity of 200km/hr is 2343 m.
 
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Well, if you know the radius of the circle, you can easily find the circumference of the circle. What does that give you? You also know the plane's speed. You can put these two pieces of information together to find out the time it takes to complete the turn.
 
hage567 said:
Well, if you know the radius of the circle, you can easily find the circumference of the circle. What does that give you? You also know the plane's speed. You can put these two pieces of information together to find out the time it takes to complete the turn.

The circumference is 7326.194 and the velocity is 55.55 m/sec. what equation would i use though??
 
Double check your calculation for the circumference, I got a different value. You know the circumference (ie total distance) the plane travels in one turn, and the speed during the turn. What's the definition of speed? Use that and solve for t.
 
hage567 said:
Double check your calculation for the circumference, I got a different value. You know the circumference (ie total distance) the plane travels in one turn, and the speed during the turn. What's the definition of speed? Use that and solve for t.

I stand corrected; C=14714.04

Alright so I'm now leaning towards Time=Distance/Velocity with the distance being the circumference. Am i correct?
 
Sounds good to me!
 
thanks!
 

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