Calculating Uncertainty on (R^2 + z^2) ^3/2

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The discussion revolves around calculating the uncertainty for the expression (R^2 + z^2)^(3/2), where R and z are considered as independent variables. Participants are exploring the application of uncertainty propagation in multi-variable functions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the method for calculating uncertainty in multi-variable functions, questioning the applicability of certain approaches to different forms of the function. There are inquiries about the treatment of trigonometric functions in relation to uncertainty.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering various interpretations of how to apply uncertainty calculations. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of partial derivatives, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct method or approach.

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Participants are navigating assumptions about the independence of variables and the treatment of trigonometric functions in the context of uncertainty. There are indications of confusion regarding the distinction between different forms of uncertainty calculations.

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Can someone tell me how to claculate the uncretinty on

(R^2 + z^2) ^3/2
 
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Assuming R and z are independent variables, you do it the same way you calculate the uncertainty in any multi variable function:

[tex]\Delta f(R,z) \approx \left| \frac{\partial f}{\partial R} \right| \Delta R+\left| \frac{\partial f}{\partial z} \right| \Delta z[/tex]
 
Isn't that just for (z^2 + R^2)?
 
Also if you have a cos/sin function in an equation(multiplying) how would you do it for cos/sin?

is it just for cos x = sinxdx/cosx and cosxdx/sinx for sin x?
 
Why would it apply to one multi variable function, but not the others?
 
So would I just take the uncertainty on z^2 + R^2, then multiply in by 3/2 and squareroot z^2 + R^2?
 
Gogsey said:
Also if you have a cos/sin function in an equation(multiplying) how would you do it for cos/sin?

is it just for cos x = sinxdx/cosx and cosxdx/sinx for sin x?

Do you know how to take derivatives? And what happened to the absolute value brackets?...Errors are never negative.

[tex]\left| \frac{\partial}{\partial x} (\cos x) \right|\Delta x= |-\sin(x)|\Delta x=|\sin(x)|\Delta x \neq \frac{\sin x}{\cos x}dx[/tex]

Also, [itex]\Delta x[/itex] is the uncertainty in x, not the differential 'dx'.
 
Gogsey said:
So would I just take the uncertainty on z^2 + R^2, then multiply in by 3/2 and squareroot z^2 + R^2?

No, you would compute the absolute value of the partial derivative of [itex](R^2+z^2)^{3/2}[/itex] with respect to R and multiply it by the uncertainty in R; then do the same with respect to z, and then add them together...
 
Ok that's for cos x, but I need (unceratinty in cosx)/cosx. The relative over the value.
 

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