Calculating Well Depth and Final Velocity of a Falling Coin

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a coin thrown down a well with an initial speed, focusing on calculating the well's depth and the coin's final velocity upon impact. The subject area includes kinematics and equations of motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various kinematic equations related to velocity, acceleration, distance, and time. There are attempts to identify known variables and the appropriate formulas to use for solving the problem. Some participants express confusion about the formulas and seek clarification on how to apply them.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing insights about the relevant equations. Some have identified the initial velocity and acceleration, while others are exploring which formulas to use for calculating displacement and final velocity. There is a collaborative atmosphere with hints and suggestions being exchanged, but no consensus has been reached on the final calculations.

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Participants mention the need for this problem in the context of an upcoming College Admission Test, indicating a sense of urgency. There is also a reference to varying notations for the variables involved, which may contribute to confusion.

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Hey I am kinda new here. :D

please help me with this. it's really easy but I can't answer it. HAHAHA

a coin is thrown down into a well with an initial speed of 3m/s. The coin hits the bottom 2 seconds later.

1. How deep is the well?
2. What is the coin's speed as it hits the ground?

Please show solution that I can study it.

Thanks in advance.
 
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What are the equations you have learned so far dealing with velocity, acceleration, distance, and time? List them out, if you can't remember them, check it up.

Once you do that, it may become clear as to what you need to do.
 
The formulas in my book isn't very informative so I'm really having troubles in this particular question and I need this for an upcoming College Admission Test.

Please help me, thanks.
 
What are the formulas given in your book regarding it?
 
andorei said:
The formulas in my book isn't very informative so I'm really having troubles in this particular question and I need this for an upcoming College Admission Test.

Please help me, thanks.

The formulas involve five variables. One set of letters is
Initial velocity - u
Final Velocity - v
Displacement - s
Acceleration - a
Time - t

[Some texts/people use different letters - the most common difference being a d instead of the s]

There are 5 formulae [though often only 4 are referred to], each with one variable missing.

For example v = u + a.t the formula with no reference to displacement.

To solve a problem, write out the three variables you do know, and identify the variable you want to find.
Then identify the formula using those 4 variable; substitute and solve carefully.
 
There are too many formulas but I'm pretty sure it is in freefall unless it was thrown downward.
I just need tips to find the coin's speed.

Here are the choices in the question

1.How deep is the well?
a. 11.56m
b. 27.32m
c. 25.6m
d. 30.25m

2. What is the coin's speed as it hits the ground
a. 30.5m/s
b. 22.6m/s
c. 11.82m/s
d. 56.72m/s
 
andorei said:
There are too many formulas but I'm pretty sure it is in freefall unless it was thrown downward.
I just need tips to find the coin's speed.

Here are the choices in the question

1.How deep is the well?
a. 11.56m
b. 27.32m
c. 25.6m
d. 30.25m

2. What is the coin's speed as it hits the ground
a. 30.5m/s
b. 22.6m/s
c. 11.82m/s
d. 56.72m/s

Which of the 5 variable I mentioned do you know? What value do they have?
 
Initial Velocity is - 3m/s
Final Velocity is unknown
Displacement is also unknown
Acceleration - I used 9.8m/s as for freefall and gravity.
time - 2 seconds
 
andorei said:
Initial Velocity is - 3m/s
Final Velocity is unknown
Displacement is also unknown
Acceleration - I used 9.8m/s as for freefall and gravity.
time - 2 seconds

http://www.physicsforidiots.com/dynamics.html

Take a look at those 6 equations in the second paragraph, which one would suit your needs to solve for displacement?

Remember, like you said, you have initial velocity (u), acceleration (a), and time (t).
 
  • #10
andorei said:
Initial Velocity is - 3m/s
Final Velocity is unknown
Displacement is also unknown
Acceleration - I used 9.8m/s as for freefall and gravity.
time - 2 seconds

Great!

Lets do velocity. You know u , a and t

which formula involves v, u, a and t ?

While we are at it
Let's do Displacement (s)
You still know u, a and t
Which formula involves u, a, s and t ?
 
  • #11
v = u + a.t
is it this one? Tho the displacement is not supplied in the formula?
 
  • #12
andorei said:
v = u + a.t
is it this one? Tho the displacement is not supplied in the formula?

That is the formula for finding the final velocity YES.

You use a different formula to find the displacement.

Edit:
That great link supplied by "NewtonianAlch" lists all the formulas in case your notes/text doesn't have them
 
  • #13
Hahaha. I got number 2 even before the formula was given. I experimented. HAHAHA

For the displacement?

s=ut+1/2at^2

Is this the one that I should use?
 
  • #14
andorei said:
Hahaha. I got number 2 even before the formula was given. I experimented. HAHAHA

For the displacement?

s=ut+1/2at^2

Is this the one that I should use?

Exactly.

Now just substitute in for the variables you know and the answers should come out.
 
  • #15
Fantastic! Everything was correct.
Thanks for the great help guys.

4 more days to review tho. It's really frustrating.

I'll ask more questions to be achieve higher grades though. I wish you guys could help me again.
 

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