Calculating Work Done: Elevator Problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done in an elevator problem involving a cabin and a counterweight. Participants explore the application of the work-energy theorem, gravitational potential energy, and the implications of different scenarios regarding the positions of the elevator and counterweight. The context includes both physics and calculus considerations.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • An elevator cabin weighing 3000 lb is lifted 120 feet, connected to a 3200 lb counterweight by a cable weighing 4 lb per foot.
  • Some participants suggest using the work-energy theorem to compute the change in energy as work done.
  • There is uncertainty about whether the problem is approached dynamically or through energy considerations.
  • One participant inquires about the determination of gravitational potential energy, suggesting the formula mgh.
  • Another participant asks about the appropriate orientation of the coordinate axis for the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and approaches to the problem, indicating that there is no consensus on how to begin or solve the problem effectively.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not yet resolved how to apply the work-energy theorem or gravitational potential energy in this specific context, and there are unresolved questions about the assumptions and methods to be used.

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An elevator cabin which weighs 3000 lb is lifted up 120 feet. It is connected with a counterweight of 3200 lb by a cable of length 200 feet weighing 4 lb per feet.

What work is done (or gained) if

a) the counterweight comes to rest at the same position as original position of the cabin,

b) 20 feet below the original position of the cabin.

Assume that the circumference of the turning wheel of the cable is 10 feet.
 
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I would use the work-energy theorem here. The change in energy will be the amount of work done. Can you compute $\Delta E$?
 
I don't know how to do this.Can you explain this for me?
 
First let me ask if this is for a physics course or for a calculus course...i.e., are you expected to do this dynamically or are you allowed to use energy considerations. Have you recently been studying gravitational potential energy?
 
It's calculus,yes we can use physics equations.And I do know some..But I don't know where to begin.
MarkFL said:
First let me ask if this is for a physics course or for a calculus course...i.e., are you expected to do this dynamically or are you allowed to use energy considerations. Have you recently been studying gravitational potential energy?
 
Okay, do you know how to determine the gravitational potential energy of an object?
 
MarkFL said:
Okay, do you know how to determine the gravitational potential energy of an object?

mgh?
 
Yes, good! :D

So where do you think would be an appropriate place to orient the origin of our coordinate axis?
 

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