Can a Gaussian Surface Confirm Zero Electric Field Between Two Charges?

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The discussion revolves around the electric field between two positive point charges and the application of a Gaussian surface to analyze the electric field at a specific point. Participants are exploring the implications of symmetry and Gauss's law in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the use of a Gaussian surface to demonstrate that the electric field at a midpoint between two charges is zero. There are attempts to apply symmetry arguments and the formula for the electric field due to a point charge. Questions arise regarding the effect of external charges on the Gaussian surface and the meaning of electric flux in this scenario.

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Several participants are engaging with the concepts of electric fields and Gaussian surfaces, with some providing insights into symmetry and electric flux. There is an ongoing exploration of how external charges influence the analysis, but no consensus has been reached on the specific application of these concepts to the problem at hand.

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1. We have two positive point charges (+q) at a distance from each other
2. Goal is to Find electric field at point A halfway between the point charges
3.By logic and summation of fields we should get ZERO
4. But how would I use a gaussian surface (sphere i assume ) to prove at point A E=0 n/c
5. Personally, I'm attempting a spherical surface around one of the points with radius of :(half distance between charges)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0TaDjU5g_GAVm9hUjliTHhSM1BSbXoyRVp3dXd6MDR4TzE4/view?usp=sharing
 

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I think you are making it harder than it really is. There is a formula for the electric field created by a point charge. Use that together with symmetry arguments since an electric field is a vector field.
 
Avatrin said:
I think you are making it harder than it really is. There is a formula for the electric field created by a point charge. Use that together with symmetry arguments since an electric field is a vector field.
Yeah I know It is E= kQ/r^2 ...i just want to understand the effect of external charges on a gaussian surface...like in my book they said that external charges don't affect the gaussian surface because all the external field lines come in and come out...no idea what that means tbh
 
Okay, I understand. The idea is that, for a gaussian surface, the same amount of field lines will be pointing into the surface as will be pointing out.

Lets take a very simple example; Think of a perfect sphere in an electric field that is constant everywhere. You are looking directly at the sphere, and let's say the field vectors are pointing towards your right. Using symmetry, it should be easy to see that the net electric flux through the sphere is zero (as much is "coming in" as is "leaving"). Gauss's law says that is true in general; If the electric field is generated by something outside the gaussian surface, the electric flux due to that thing through the surface will be zero.

So, the external charges do affect individual portions of the surface. However, they do not affect the flux through the entire surface. That will remain zero.
 

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