Can a nontrivial quotient space of R be homeomorphic to R?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of quotient spaces in topology and whether a non-trivial equivalence relation can be found on ℝ such that its quotient space is homeomorphic to ℝ. While it is possible to create a homeomorphic quotient space by gluing points together, it is impossible to do so with the additional constraint that a~c implies a~b when a<b<c.
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Intuitively, one would assume that the quotient space of a topological space under an equivalence relation would always be smaller than the original space. It turns out this is not remotely true. I'm specifically interested in quotient spaces of ℝ (under the standard topology).

We can easily make a quotient space of ℝ be homeomorphic to ℝ, for instance be gluing all the points in an interval into a single point. We can even glue infinitely many intervals into points, and still get a quotient space homeomorphic to ℝ. But my question is this: let us call an equivalence relation "nontrivial" if every equivalence class has at least two elements. Then does there exist a nontrivial equivalence relation on ℝ such that the quotient space is homeomorphic to ℝ?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You in Advance.
 
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There is a theorem that if ##f:X\rightarrow Y## is a closed (or open) continuous surjection, then it is a quotient map. So if we define for ##x,y\in X## the following equivalence relation

[tex]x\sim y~\Leftrightarrow ~ f(x)=f(y)[/tex]

then we have that ##Y=X/\sim##.

So if we succeed to find a closed (or open) continuous surjection ##f:\mathbb{R}\rightarrow \mathbb{R}##, then we will have found an equivalence relation such that its quptient is ##\mathbb{R}##.

I think that the following

[tex]f:\mathbb{R}\rightarrow \mathbb{R}:x\rightarrow x\sin(x)[/tex]

is a closed and continuous surjection. So this would be an example.
 
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Thanks micromass. What if we imposed an additional condition on the equivalence relation: if a<b<c and a~c, then a~b. Under that condition, it's impossible to have the quotient space be homeomorphic to ℝ, right?
 
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lugita15 said:
Thanks micromass. What if we imposed an additional condition on the equivalence relation: if a<b<c and a~c, then a~b. Under that condition, it's impossible to have the quotient space be homeomorphic to ℝ, right?

Yeah, I think it should impossible then. But let me think of a proof...
 
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With the additional constraint, the set of image points with more than one origin cannot be uncountable, since each preimage contains an open interval. From separability of [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex] there is no uncountable set of pairwise disjoint open intervals.
 

1. Can a nontrivial quotient space of R be homeomorphic to R?

Yes, it is possible for a nontrivial quotient space of R (the set of real numbers) to be homeomorphic to R. This means that the two spaces have the same topological properties, even though they may have different elements.

2. What does it mean for a quotient space to be nontrivial?

A nontrivial quotient space means that the space is not equivalent to the trivial space (a single point). It contains more than one element and has nontrivial topological properties.

3. How can a quotient space of R be homeomorphic to R?

A nontrivial quotient space of R can be homeomorphic to R if it is constructed using a continuous, invertible function that preserves the topological properties of R. This function, called a homeomorphism, ensures that the two spaces are topologically equivalent.

4. What are the implications of a nontrivial quotient space being homeomorphic to R?

If a nontrivial quotient space is homeomorphic to R, it means that the two spaces have the same topological properties and can be used interchangeably in certain mathematical constructions. This can be useful for simplifying complex topological spaces.

5. Are there any real-world examples of a nontrivial quotient space being homeomorphic to R?

Yes, there are many real-world examples of nontrivial quotient spaces being homeomorphic to R. One example is the set of rational numbers (Q) with the quotient topology induced by the irrationals (Q/R). This space is homeomorphic to R, but it is a nontrivial quotient space since it contains both rational and irrational numbers.

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